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The last plate of Osprey in the "Greek Hoplite" shows some form of padding under the muscled cuirass. It uses grave stelae as ecidence.
I went to Keramikos ancient cemetery last Saturday and they seem to have some validity in their claim but the stelae were wery withered from time.
I do not deny the posibility of armor padding to be cloth but leather could not be excluded in my opinion.
I agree also with you post on Dunkan's reference.
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Duncan where did you come across the translation "Is there a complete translation or greek copy of these works avaliable? anyone know?
PS Have finally tracked down a source for Eero Jarva's Archaic Greek Body Armour, it turned up on the doorstep today so have not read it yet.
PPS My wife gave birth to our first child yesterday "Lewis Alexander Hoffman" so forgive me if i am a little distracted over the next few months
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Leather lining was at Dendra armor and there some corinthian helmets with leather lining traces in Olympia museum. Photo of one in a University of California exists in page 11 of Osprey "The Greek hoplite"
Lining was not always attached to armor but was worn as a separate piece.
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P.S. Congartulations Jason!!!!
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Where did you find Jarva's Book, and is it english?
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Congratulations, Jason. Please convey my best wishes to your wife.
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Quote:PPS My wife gave birth to our first child yesterday "Lewis Alexander Hoffman" so forgive me if i am a little distracted over the next few months
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I hope your wife and baby Lewis are both happy and well.....
All my best wishes for the future.
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Arthes
Cristina
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Conagratulations Jason!!!
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Firstly thanks for all the well wishes Mum and Baby both doing well.
Conon Yes Jarva's book is in English and can be obtained from
Historical Association of Northern Finland
Department of History
PO Box 1000
FIN-90014 University of Oulu
Finland
or
contact Kari Alenius (associate Prof at Oulu) at
[email protected]
Jarva is one of the professors there, I ended up finding his name in the Uni e-mail and sent him a message and he redirected it to the Historical association.
"History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again." Maya Angelou