First Sneak Peek at the Dioskouri Corinthian

[Vindex]

Then you're a lucky guy, Bill!

This helmet is a thing of great beauty and IMO a mile stone in reconstruction of an iconic piece.

Is there a waiting list? :twisted:

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Man, now I really have helmet envy! 8-)

[katsika]

I hear you! That is precisely why I wanted to get in line ASAP to get mine. :mrgreen:

I still am not clear on the price because I am assuming there could be small discrepancies in material costs and custom adornments. I do know that it is more than reasonable, due to the amount of labor and care that goes into each individual helmet.

Dioskouri requests that you who are interested in purchasing, to send a template of your head to them so a proper, custom fit will be ensured. This is normally done by taking a coat hanger wire and wrapping it around your head so it fits like a hat (I wired and soldered the ends together and also soldered inside cross braces to keep the postal chimps from destroying it en route). Then, after it is constructed, a wax model will be sent to you for sizing and adjustments (preferences, etc.). After you are happy with the fit, return it to Dioskouri for the final bronze work. This takes a couple of months (generally speaking), but the results yield a REAL Corinthian just like the ancient Greeks had. :wink: If you want a crest added, these prices will also vary slightly depending on requirements from the purchaser. Crests are attached with pitch - NO holes are drilled - this is generally how it was done back then - that sucker AIN'T coming off unless you want it to! . Pricing on this is also very reasonable, especially when compared to other less impressive, less accurate crests offered almost everywhere else.

I realize all this information might seem somewhat vague, as I am only a customer as well, but it is a starting point. Contact Dioskouri directly for any final information.

www.dioskouri.com

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Once I get my other orders paid for, I will be looking to budget for one!
Now, I just need to sort out what stuff I am keeping and what to get rid of to help fund this! mile:
So far I have managed to sell as sword and a helmet..... :-?

[katsika]

Anyone want to buy my Manning? mile: :evil:

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Mine is almost ready! I would keep both!
They are the best available....

[wolf16mt]

Simply stunning work. A true craftsmans hands.

[M. Demetrius]

It's perfectly all right and highly encouraged to praise someone's or some company's work. Please be careful not to make insulting comments about another work, without clear reasons.

There were more exceptions to the "Corinthian Helmet" than those that fit the "rule". They were anything but cookie-cutter models, and there was considerable evolution of that helmet over the centuries that they were in use.

[caiusbeerquitius]

Shouldn´t this thread be in marketplace? ;-)

[katsika]

It's perfectly all right and highly encouraged to praise someone's or some company's work. Please be careful not to make insulting comments about another work, without clear reasons.

I am not aware of any insults made by anyone in this thread - certainly none were implied as far as I can tell. Please be more specific so we might know the limits of our freedom of speech here.
Thanks!

[M. Demetrius]

@ Katsika: Sometimes when folks begin to compare brand A with brand B, the conversation turns to why A is correct, and B is a piece of junk. Since there were several comparisons already between the two, the moderator staff decided it would be a good idea to remind people. No accusations are being made here.

@ Christian: when the product is available for general purchase, then the NEW thread should be put in the Marketplace. For now, it's fine to discuss, compare/contrast, and picture this proto-product in this location, as it is, after all, a Reconstruction.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

I am still going to be chuffed with my Manning! it's getting closer to completion! :evil:
However, I will get one of these, oneday! (anybody need a kidney? One (sorta) careful owner) :mrgreen:

[caiusbeerquitius]

I really like the looks of the helmet, it is excellent, and really would like to order one for me. I am a bit concerned about the weight, though. I checked today in the quite recent

H. Frielinghaus, Die Helme von Olympia - ein Beitrag zu Waffenweihungen in griechischen Heiligtümern, Olympische Forschungen 33, Berlin et al. 2011.

which is a consummate archaeological report of all the helmets and helmet parts from Olympia, the weight of the Corinthians. As we all know there is a huge number of these helmets from Olympia, and not one of them weighs more than about 1.3 kg, the majority quite exactly around 1 kg. What is the exact weight of the Dioskouri helmet?

[Virilis]

Christian, the helmets are between 7-8 lbs. Is it a bit on the heavy side :whistle: !?

[caiusbeerquitius]

That would mean that they are 3 times heavier than the large amount of the originals. Are they cast completely? The originals, such as the Denda in Munich or the examples from Olympia mostly are very thin at the top back and back of the skull, sometimes less than 0.4 mm ("paper-thin"), while at the same time being quite thick in the face region. As has been discussed elsewhere here on RAT a while ago, the helmets were cast, probably with a very shallow skull, which then was hammered into a much higher form. This method is also testified for early Corinthian helmets, as shown in "Die Helme des Hephaistos".