Let\'s see your Signifer and Aquilifer animal pelts

[Robert Vermaat]

You'll have to rotate your computer to see the picture straight. Photobucket does not seem to be my friend anymore...

No problems for me illy:

[Doc]

Bear pelts are no problem. But where does someone get a lion pelt? Is the lion pelt on that signifer made from synthetic material or is it an actual lion skin.

[jvrjenivs]

Bear pelts are no problem. But where does someone get a lion pelt? Is the lion pelt on that signifer made from synthetic material or is it an actual lion skin.

It's a real lion. The Gemina project acquired it when the animal had died in a Dutch ZOO and the staff kindly helped them with the paperworks, etc.

[Doc]

Hello Jurjen,

Interesting about the lion. Where I live in NY there is a very large zoo and about two hours from my home a safari theme park.
Who knows if I ask them that when one of their lions dies, if I could have the pelt. Somehow being in the States I doubt it.
But it does not hurt to ask.

[tiberius antonius serenus]

Hello!

I'am Antonius from the Legio XXII Primigenia PR P F. This is my Wolf:





bye!!




ps: hello Jef!

[Kegluneq]

Hello!

I'am Antonius from the Legio XXII Primigenia PR P F. This is my Wolf:

That looks amazing! I do wonder what the Romans might have used (if anything) to replace the eyes - are those made of glass, or something more complicated?

[caiusbeerquitius]

Do we have any evidence for wolf pelts being worn by standard bearers? There are several reenactment groups doing that, I have the impression that it is rather some sort of "reenactorism". And the face masks for standard bearers?

[jvrjenivs]

Do we have any evidence for wolf pelts being worn by standard bearers? There are several reenactment groups doing that, I have the impression that it is rather some sort of "reenactorism". And the face masks for standard bearers?

Actually, I have the impression that even using the animal pelt OVER A HELMET might be a re-enactorism as well. Looking at some of the depictions the skin could also be put on the head directly, something like a hat.

[ANTONIVS MAGNVS]

And the face masks for standard bearers?

I believe there are two stele that show a face mask but some believe it is actually an animal pelt head. I'll try to dig them up:

Quintus Luccius Faustus of XIV Gemina

[M. Demetrius]

Using the bowl from a Trooper helmet (cut off the neck guard, and perhaps remove the cheek pieces) would give a practical use for one of those helmets. I know someone who did basically that. Seems to work fine.

Looking at some of the depictions the skin could also be put on the head directly, something like a hat.

I have seen some that look that way, too. Hard to know for sure. But a piece of furry skin would provide little protection for the head. A metal under-cap would help, for sure.

[M. CVRIVS ALEXANDER]

Robert very impressive indeed! That lion is huge!

Alexander I read your link to the original thread about the umbo, thanks. Just out of curiosity is the boss a one off or are you able to reproduce it?

Jennifer who made the umbo has the form, but as far as I know, she has no intention to make another copy.

[ANTONIVS MAGNVS]

You're very fortunate then, it's absolutely beautiful.

[Marcus Mummius]

You'll have to rotate your computer to see the picture straight. Photobucket does not seem to be my friend anymore...

No problems for me illy:

Thanks Robert!

ps: hello Jef!

Salve frater! I hope you are well!

[Albertomv]

Here is Quintus Luccius Faustus stella:

[attachment=6297]QuintusLucciusFaustus.jpg[/attachment]

[Luca]

we bought the fur of a lion from a zoo. The lion died naturally of course, but we have to travel always with documentations and permissions.
We chose to close the eyes of the head because I have no evidence romans were using glass eyes to put them into the animal furs.