Quote:How interesting. Looks like one of those 'Mannheim' Coolus jobs ...
I think you're right, Nathan. I posted in haste. It's clearly not pointy enough to be a pukka Montefortino (and not classy enough to be a Mannheim) -- I'd call it a Coolus.
Quote:Does anybody know of the whereabouts of that helmet and whether it has been published?
It's only just been found, Jens. It's being conserved in the BM.
Oh dear, the Guardian referred to it as 'Celtic', score one to the BBC. I was actually very impressed with the BBC's coverage of the find over the course of the day, with the newsreader/interviewer generally being informed in advance that there was movement to and fro across the channel prior to the conquest.
Or just holes, maybe? I think those simple Coolus-types are believed to have just had a chin strap. Like this sort of thing:
Quote:(and not classy enough to be a Mannheim) -- I'd call it a Coolus.
Yes, it does look a lot like the original Coolus from the Marne. I've always seen the ones without cheek pieces referred to as Mannheim types, but that could just be muddled terminology!
I think it's a montefortino myself, the crest knob may well ave gone.
Looks pretty rounfd to just be a hole!
I understood there to be a very cheap mass produced montefortino produced to equip Caesars Legions recruited in the provinces and Gaul? One of it's ID' was the single riviet for the cheekpiece rather than the traditional 2?
The neck guard on this is closer to a montefortino than other coolus types anyway.
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I think that with the decorative edging it says more towards it being a Montefortino possibly a B or C, in fact it has also been mentioned in the metal detecting fraternity that the top point has also been found if so this should give us more info' about it.
Here is a larger image of the right side that most definitely shows that a hole has been made for purpose on both sides similar to some Montefortino type C.
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I think that this is a Helmet of type Mannheim, because the edge of the helmet is curved upwards. A typical feature of a Mannheim helmet.
It also fits perfectly into this time.
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We should wait for further results.
If a helmet knob is found, then we have a Montefortino ahead.
A typological classification is difficult, since there are always mixed forms.
Just yesterday I saw two helmets from France, which were restored in Mainz. There are mixed types of Niederbieber and Intercisa.
Quote:Just yesterday I saw two helmets from France, which were restored in Mainz. There are mixed types of Niederbieber and Intercisa.
I presume that these are the helmets found in Poitiers? Would you have any pictures available or be able to describe them in more detail? That would be much appreciated!
I know that this topic is more focused on the helmet (that looks like a “Coolus” to me...I am thinking at the one from Breuvannes, for example).
But, does anyone know if there are other images of the brooch ?
As Mr. Stobbs has already written, after a first look at the image with the helmet, the brooch seems like a Nauheim type. Perhaps can be attributed to the “Nauheim I.1” (Demetz 1999) / “Nauheim 5a” (Feugère 1985).
This brooch in the north of the Alps marks the beginning of the La Tène D (generally, the last quarter of the 2nd century BC) and disappear around the middle Augustan era. In Italy this model arrives a little late, a terminus ante quem for this brooch in the south of the Alps is an exemplar from Talamone (Genio militare depot. An interesting discovery in Britain indeed...
It looks to me as if it has holes on both sides for a leather chin strap. IT'd be interesting to see f this really is a mix of two different types of helmet. A fascinating find either way.
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Quote:I know that this topic is more focused on the helmet (that looks like a “Coolus” to me...I am thinking at the one from Breuvannes, for example).
But, does anyone know if there are other images of the brooch ?
As Mr. Stobbs has already written, after a first look at the image with the helmet, the brooch seems like a Nauheim type. Perhaps can be attributed to the “Nauheim I.1” (Demetz 1999) / “Nauheim 5a” (Feugère 1985).
This brooch in the north of the Alps marks the beginning of the La Tène D (generally, the last quarter of the 2nd century BC) and disappear around the middle Augustan era. In Italy this model arrives a little late, a terminus ante quem for this brooch in the south of the Alps is an exemplar from Talamone (Genio militare depot. An interesting discovery in Britain indeed...
Thank you for this comment; I'd be very interested in the brooch too.
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