07-20-2016, 06:52 AM
Oh, I know of the Queen Mother of the West, I didn't want to drag the Chinese into this as well.
To clarify, I have no interest in linking the Pazyryk to the Turks at all.
I think I'm just not quite convinced of the uniqueness of this supposed Pazyryk->Alan evolution.
- horse manes? OK, it seems a bit random, but I'll give it to you, they're there.
- bow cases? There are bowcases in many of the "scythian" pieces of art, there's even a quiver hanging from the Tree of Life in the Hittite piece. Doesn't seem that specific.
- contus? This is kinda weak. May have developed from the halberd? The Greeks also used pretty long lances, as did many other people the Alans would've been in contact with.
- alanic sword? But the Pazyryk didn't use long swords with scabbard slides, right? This seems more like a mid-connection to the Yuezhi.
- yurts? How specifically exclusive were they to the Pazyryk? Why are we sure the Sai, Saka, Wusun or even western Scythians and others didn't use them?
To clarify, I have no interest in linking the Pazyryk to the Turks at all.
I think I'm just not quite convinced of the uniqueness of this supposed Pazyryk->Alan evolution.
- horse manes? OK, it seems a bit random, but I'll give it to you, they're there.
- bow cases? There are bowcases in many of the "scythian" pieces of art, there's even a quiver hanging from the Tree of Life in the Hittite piece. Doesn't seem that specific.
- contus? This is kinda weak. May have developed from the halberd? The Greeks also used pretty long lances, as did many other people the Alans would've been in contact with.
- alanic sword? But the Pazyryk didn't use long swords with scabbard slides, right? This seems more like a mid-connection to the Yuezhi.
- yurts? How specifically exclusive were they to the Pazyryk? Why are we sure the Sai, Saka, Wusun or even western Scythians and others didn't use them?
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