IIIrd C. AD Ring pommel sword

[Anonymous]

... From a czech site. It looks like nice work, with pattern welded blades of various designs.<br>
It's the first replica I see of a rinknaufschwerd, if that's the proper german spelling, or ring pommel sword in english.<br>
Worth a visit. Too bad I do not speak czech.<br>
I don't think Deepeka does it yet although I remember Dan telling me something about it a while ago after I asked.[url=http://www.templ.net/zbrane/starovek_a_ranny_stredovek.php#A16" target="top]www.templ.net/zbrane/starovek_a_ranny_stredovek.php#A16[/url]...Correction.. There's an english version.. And the ring pommel sword, from an original found in Switzerland, is gold inlaid --besides the pattern welded blade-- and costs 2800 euros.. Aaaaaaaargh <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=antoninuslucretius@romanarmytalk>Antoninus Lucretius</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://lucretius.homestead.com/files/Cesar_triste.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 3/31/05 3:20 pm<br></i>

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the link, Antonius! I was going to make myself one of these last year for my late 2nd C. impression, but gave up when I saw the close ups in B&C... daunting, to say the least! Can't say I'll buy one anytime soon, but awfully nice to know where to get one<br>
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Vale,<br>
Severus <p></p><i></i>

[FAVENTIANVS]

It looks really well done, It is the 1st reconstruction I see from a ring pommel spatha. My III-IV century one was done by avitianvs. <p>Ivan Perelló<br>
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[TIBISIVS]

So was my 1st century one. <p></p><i></i>

[Lucius Aurelius Metellus]

Does anyone know how long the ring pommel swords persisted in use? I mean, what is the latest date they can be attested? Did they make it to the 5th century? <p>Lucius Aurelius Metellus, draconarius, Secunda Brittanica<br>
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[FlaviusCrispus]

Quote:</em></strong><hr>Does anyone know how long the ring pommel swords persisted in use? I mean, what is the latest date they can be attested? Did they make it to the 5th century?<hr><br>
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According to the noted Roman military expert Holger Von Graevert (I just got off the phone with him), the ring pommel sword seems to have had a fairly limited span of use among the Romans. It originated with the Sarmatians and became popular with the Romans during the Sarmatian-Marcommanic Wars of the later 2nd century AD. Oddly enough, while the handle, ring pommel and grip guard are fairly distinctive, the blade form varies a great deal-- sometimes you see a relatively short blade with a diamond cross section a la a Pompeii gladius or early Spatha, sometimes you see a longer, grooved blade like later Roman and Germanic weapons. It is most widely found in the Rhine-Danube-Balkan region; the type never seems to have caught on in Britain. It seems to fade from Roman use by the middle of the third century AD.<br>
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Now, about that Czech repro... what a beauty, eh? Wish I had an extra 2,800 euro to spend.<br>
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Someone mention an English version of this site... mind posting a link? I can't find it for the life of me.<br>
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T. Flavius Crispus <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=flaviuscrispus@romanarmytalk>FlaviusCrispus</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/legiovi/vwp?.dir=/Flavius+photo&.src=gr&.dnm=flavhead2.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 4/7/05 12:44 am<br></i>

[Antonius Lucretius]

[url:71rc0ivr]http://www.templ.net/who_is_patrick_barta.php[/url]

It took me some time to figure out again how to get the english version. You just had to click on the TEMPL logo...
Never mind.. Her's the link in english. It will take you to the intro with the name of the armourer, who is called Patrick Barta. I browsed through Patrick Barta's site and he is definitely one of the outstanding swordmakers of our age. His swords are made just the way they were, starting not even from scratch but from iron ore, then smelting it the good old fashioned way, then...Well you'll see. It's worth a visit. Every one of his swords is based on an actual artefact.
Someone asked where he could find a late-late roman spatha. Well if you have the tons of money, that's where they are. And many, many more.
Patrick Barta performs very, very high quality work and naturally his works of art --really-- are very expensive.
But browsing through his site is free, and everyone has the right to dream...