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Six Numeri for Honorius
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(05-03-2018, 10:00 AM)Nathan Ross Wrote: Does he give any particular reason for the estimated date, do you know?

Of the three possible dates (for the one dated inscription!) it seems the least likely - a western soldier dating his death by the eastern consuls might be acceptable after the battle I suppose, but also Theodosius and Stilicho were in Milan by late 394-Jan 395, and presumably their comitatus field army would have gone with them. Not exactly critical, but it weighs in the balance...


Hoffmann dates this entire cemetary to the presence of the united armies of East and West, before they marched east again under Stilicho in January. That would fit with the 394 consular date as well with the Eastern consuls.

Hoffmann, Die spätrömischen Soldatengrabschriften von Concordia, p.26:

"At Concordia Cemetery, a series of indications suggest that the unit inscriptions were not distributed over a number of years or even decades, but probably originated all in the short period between autumn 394 and spring 395, ie in the first 6 months after the Battle of Frigidus [(about 30 km north of Trieste) on 5-6 September 394, where the Eastern Roman Emperor Theodosius I defeated the usurpers Eugenius and the army of the Western Empire lead by Arbogast], and the departure of the new Western Roman generalissimo of Theodosius' Grace, Stilicho, the following spring, after the death of the emperor in Milan on January 17 395, at the head of the two united imperial armies to the East to take control of the government in Constantinople.
The epitaphs of Concordia are thus likely to show the mere temporary residence of a large army detachment in Venetia, composed of the Eastern and Western troops, as they had been sent Theodosius to the winter camp after reconciliation with the defeated Western Army."

Beim Friedhof von Concordia läßt nun eine Reihe von Anzeichen darauf schliessen, daß die Truppeninschriften sich nicht etwa auf längere Jahre oder gar Jahrzehnte verteilen, sondern wahrscheinlich allesamt in den kurzen Zeitraum zwischen Herbstanfang 394 und Frühjahr 395 fallen, das heißt in das Halbjahr nach der Schlacht am Frigidus (etwa 30 km nördlich von Triest) vom 5./6. September
394, wo der oströmische Kaiser Theodosius I. die von den Usurpatoren Eugenius und Arbogast geführte Armee des Westreichs schlug, und dem Aufbruch des neuen weströmischen Generalissimus von Theodosius' Gnaden, Stilicho, der sich im folgenden Frühjahr, nachdem der Kaiser am 17. Januar 395 in Mailand gestorben war, an der Spitze der beiden vereinigten Reichsarmeen nach Osten
wandte, um auch die Regierung in Konstantinopel in seine Hände zu bekommen.
Die Grabschriften von Concordia dürften mithin vom bloß vorübergehenden Aufenthalt einer größeren, aus Ost- und Westtruppen zusammengesetzten Heeresabteilung in Venezien zeugen, wie sie Theodosius nach der Versöhnung mit der besiegten Westarmee ins Winterlager eingewiesen hat.


(apologies for the lengthy flowery sentence, the tekst is translated from German and over half a century old).
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Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 04-29-2018, 11:22 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Flavivs Aetivs - 04-30-2018, 07:33 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 04-30-2018, 09:19 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Justin I - 06-22-2018, 03:58 AM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 06-22-2018, 12:44 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Justin I - 06-26-2018, 01:18 AM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Robert Vermaat - 05-01-2018, 08:57 AM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 05-01-2018, 11:09 AM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Robert Vermaat - 05-01-2018, 01:00 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 05-01-2018, 03:09 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Robert Vermaat - 05-02-2018, 07:55 AM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 05-02-2018, 10:59 AM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Robert Vermaat - 05-03-2018, 10:19 AM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 05-03-2018, 04:56 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Robert Vermaat - 05-03-2018, 05:43 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 05-03-2018, 06:17 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Aussum - 05-07-2018, 09:25 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 05-08-2018, 12:24 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 05-02-2018, 10:42 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Robert Vermaat - 05-03-2018, 09:44 AM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 05-03-2018, 10:00 AM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Robert Vermaat - 05-03-2018, 12:13 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Nathan Ross - 05-07-2018, 07:34 PM
RE: Six Numeri for Honorius - by Flavivs Aetivs - 05-08-2018, 12:10 AM

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