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"Barbarian" military equipment studies
#46
Very impressive indeed, and not that expensive at $ 760 considering the quality of workmanship.
This one looks just as good as the "official" reconstruction at the British Museum..
Pascal Sabas
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#47
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[url:2crqutuq]http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/2877721973/qid%3D1120129296/402-1670436-1256901[/url]

The darn thing is outta stock at Amazon.fr. Sad
But get the book if you have a chance. Fascinating.
The BW plates from that french site were scanned from the book.
Lebedynsky specialises in steppe cultures. He also wrote books on the Scythians, the Sarmatians and the Alans and I think I'll indulge into investments there.. Big Grin
..And I suspect that the front plate of that alamannic helmet was not riveted. It seems the whole thing was held together with rawhide.

You could try an 2nd hand bookshop like www.abebooks.com . They've found loads of out of print books for me.

Edit: I've checked Abebooks myself, they have got it:
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookD ... sortby%3D3
Regards,

Hisham
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#48
Could anyone point me to the lamelar cuiras like that on the horseman pictured above (page 2 of this thread)?
Stefan Pop-Lazic
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#49
Yes, it was found in Germany, at Niederstotzingen, Allamannic grave.
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Ivan Perelló
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#50
Aha! I have that book!
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Ivan Perelló
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#51
Just the osprey ones... which is the sutton hoo one?
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Ivan Perelló
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#52
Ah ok, yes I have it too. I'm an osprey fan! I have 41 titles now.
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Ivan Perelló
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#53
A friend of mine have'em, they're great. I have 4 concord books, all by Angus McBride: IMPERIAL ROME AT WAR, ANCIENT CELTS, BARBARIANS & ANCIENT ARMIES.
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Ivan Perelló
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#54
Believe me, don't waste your money with that rubbish! They are bad reconstructions and politicaly biased, specially the ones written by J.Lago.

Better search British books, or German if you can understand German.
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Ivan Perelló
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#55
You're welcome.

There are also 2 more books from Concord left, but I don't have'em: The crusades by Angus McBride and the Mongols by a Chinese artist.

Check the Montvert books by Angus McBride too, similar to the Osprey ones but with more images than text. I just have 2 volumes: The Ptolemaic and Selejucid armies. quite good indeed.

I'm being off-topic now... I know :oops: :roll: so, as a moderator, I shall warn myself!
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Ivan Perelló
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#56
I'll help you out guys: [url:37anhoc2]http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?p=43515#43515[/url]
Robert Vermaat
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FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
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#57
Thanx Vorty!!!! Big Grin D D D
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Ivan Perelló
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#58
I came across a Vindolanda Tablet that contained a report on the fighting characteristics of the native britons.

"... the Britons are unprotected by armour (?). There are very many cavalry. The cavalry do not use swords nor do the wretched Britons mount in order to throw javelins."

For a fuller explanation look at



http://vindolanda.csad.ox.ac.uk/4DLink2 ... yEnglish=1
Timeo Danaos et Dona ferentes

Andy.(Titus Scapula Clavicularis)
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#59
Indeed it is. Cool! Thanks, Gioi!
Robert Vermaat
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FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
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#60
For my Archaeology studies I did research into Early Medieval weapongraves. The Niederstotzingen graves were included in this research and I had access to the German excavation reports. In there it is stated that the lamellar helmet from Niederstotzingen is probably of Hunnish origin. They based this on the position of the noseguard. The noseguard points straight downward and could indicate that the original owner had a flattened nose (it would intefere with the shape of the nose of the majority of Europeans). The Huns are said to practice nose flattening, i.e. binding the nose of newborn babies and leaving the binding until the child's bonestructure is formed. A somewhat far fetched theory maybe but the helmet is definitly of eastern origin.

The helmet is probably acquired by an Allamannic warrior during the campaining of the Franks and Allamans in the Gothic War in Italy. Maybe the helmet was "liberated" from a slain Goth who got the helmet itself through connections with Central Asian Goths, trade or battle. Many Lombard, Avar, Hunnic etc. artifacts have been found in Allamanic graves and these were all probably brought back to Allaman territory by Allamannic warriors returning from the wars in Italy.
Vihirma
Marwin Albertema
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