04-17-2004, 06:09 AM
Hi Vincula.<br>
You wrote<br>
"Faith has nothing to do with reason -- I can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God, but I choose to believe that he exists, and I will not be offended when you tell me that you choose to believe that he doesn't exist."<br>
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Its nice you say you will not be offended but its the first part that scares me. An intelligent person chooses for no reason (as you say no reason is involved) to believe in something. On the other hand a reasonable person using reason might be open to criticisms that point out a fallacy in his reason. We are all unreasonable at times and one might not want to accept the criticism but in doing so the person is not being reasonable!<br>
Instead a BELIEVER is quite deaf and blind and continues along his line of "thought". No discussion with him is infact possible. An honest and good natured person admits that FAITH has nothing to do with reason. Others, with political agendas, are more subtle and will actually engage philosophical argumentations and abuse politeness, but they speak and write with a forked toungue. How else could it be if, as you say and as I am convinced, it all boils down to renouncing to reason? <p></p><i></i>
You wrote<br>
"Faith has nothing to do with reason -- I can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God, but I choose to believe that he exists, and I will not be offended when you tell me that you choose to believe that he doesn't exist."<br>
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Its nice you say you will not be offended but its the first part that scares me. An intelligent person chooses for no reason (as you say no reason is involved) to believe in something. On the other hand a reasonable person using reason might be open to criticisms that point out a fallacy in his reason. We are all unreasonable at times and one might not want to accept the criticism but in doing so the person is not being reasonable!<br>
Instead a BELIEVER is quite deaf and blind and continues along his line of "thought". No discussion with him is infact possible. An honest and good natured person admits that FAITH has nothing to do with reason. Others, with political agendas, are more subtle and will actually engage philosophical argumentations and abuse politeness, but they speak and write with a forked toungue. How else could it be if, as you say and as I am convinced, it all boils down to renouncing to reason? <p></p><i></i>
Jeffery Wyss
"Si vos es non secui of solutio tunc vos es secui of preciptate."
"Si vos es non secui of solutio tunc vos es secui of preciptate."
