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Khairete,
I just found this on the Museum of Sparta site...isn't that Alexander with the 16 point Argead star behind him - it does not mention him ?
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21105m/0 ... 05m059.jpg
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Quote:Khairete,
I just found this on the Museum of Sparta site...isn't that Alexander with the 16 point Argead star behind him - it does not mention him ?
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21105m/0 ... 05m059.jpg
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Arthes
It does look Alexandrian, and many of hellenistic or alexandrian mosaic resemblance him very much...
But it could be god Hellios or Appollonos( Apollos) or a new deity...
perhaps Stefanus know better..
Also some represent Seasons or sort of nature...
Also for example ther is one wich represent the proper city Alexandria.
Also in time the Catolic church copy that aura or sun behind the head, and put it in saints apostle & Jesus etc...
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Hi Arthes, this is a pic of Alexander Sarcophagus helm, when its still has some its original colour...I have it since a little kid!  ...
Those lips extremely like my father & those lines in his face too..
You can compare Nix helmet vs Deepeeka one, see in alexander sarcophagus, that you can see Alex ears, and deepeekas cover it :evil:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/C ... img007.jpg
http://www.niximperial.biz/collection_1_13.html
http://www.niximperial.biz/collection_5_2.html
This is an unfinish old drawing of me, when I use to have my hair long, but not way I has had those muscle! :oops: ...
I drew myself long time ago as an medieval roman duke, with Charles 15th c armor...
I like it more than the Medieval western & easterners Komnenos because I was obsessed with Lions :wink:
Anyway also King Charles of Spain was a cousin of the Komnenos by a grandmother...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/C ... img008.jpg
And old drawing is me (the Lion) & a my son (Alexander) :lol:
this drawing I did years before he slep in his mom womb! :roll:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/C ... img013.jpg
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Actually, no one has ever convincingly shown that the "star of Vergina" is a star. In fact, there is a lot of evidence that the heraldic symbol of the Argeads was in fact the sun, and the illustration above can, therefore, be both Alexander and the sun. The main argument that a sixteen-pointed "star" is in fact a sun is the coinage of Uranopolis, founded in 316 by Cassander's younger brother Alexarchos Helios; here, the star can only be a sun. (Illustrations in Morkholm, Early Hellenistic Coinage, 1991 #60, fig.75)
Here's a summary of other evidence that connects the Sun to the Argeads: - Hdt. 8.137: the Sun as protector of the Argead house
Plut. Mor. 180b: Alexander likening himself to the Sun
Alexander's custom to sacrifice to the sun (e.g., after Hydaspes)
Philostratus, Life of Apollonius 2.43 (altar dedicated to the Sun)
Arrian, Anabasis 7.16.6; Appian, Civil Wars 2.153: Alexander supposed not to see the setting sun
There is more, but this is what I remember.
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I can definitely get you a shield! They should be available commercially from January. Either we can send you one, or you can collect it at the Festival. - unless you want to come over for the re-enactors' market in February...
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Hi Comerus,
I am astonished what a good painter You are and even Charles V.'s cuirass looks correct; did you make Your drawing after this figure of Andrea Miniaturas, omitting the textile parts of the armour?
http://www.andrea-miniatures.com/market ... oDetalle=5
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Sorry to the others, this reply is a bit off-topic.
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Quote:Hi Arthes, this is a pic of Alexander Sarcophagus helm, when its still has some its original colour...I have it since a little kid! ...
Those lips extremely like my father & those lines in his face too..
You can compare Nix helmet vs Deepeeka one, see in alexander sarcophagus, that you can see Alex ears, and deepeekas cover it :evil:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/C ... img007.jpg
http://www.niximperial.biz/collection_1_13.html
http://www.niximperial.biz/collection_5_2.html
Yes, I can see what you mean. I liked the helm he wore in the film which is based on the covered ears version.
Just found this.....what do you think? [url:19tx80w6]http://www.instoneinc.com//gallery/Alexander%20the%20Great-O.jpg[/url] It's cigar label artwork...
Quote:This is an unfinish old drawing of me, when I use to have my hair long, but not way I has had those muscle! :oops: ...
I drew myself long time ago as an medieval roman duke, with Charles 15th c armor...
I like it more than the Medieval western & easterners Komnenos because I was obsessed with Lions :wink:
Anyway also King Charles of Spain was a cousin of the Komnenos by a grandmother...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/C ... img008.jpg
And old drawing is me (the Lion) & a my son (Alexander) :lol:
this drawing I did years before he slep in his mom womb! :roll:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/C ... img013.jpg
I love the drawings, especially your son with Aslan....
Charles in 15th century armour...looks far more like Alexander :wink: Was your hair that long....
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Arthes
Cristina
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The image is of Apollo as "Sun Victorious"
Solar sumbols are definitly identified in the hoplite shields from the Archaic Era. The star is not a Star but the Sun. In classical era it ususaly is shown with 8 rays but in the hellenistic period with 16 rays. Bronze age seals and pottery fron Doris has both depictions. So you see it is quite old.
Possibly Alexander offered shields with the sun silvered to his Hypaspists hense in the Successors period they were known as "Argyraspides" literally "silvershields"
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Quote:Hi Comerus,
I am astonished what a good painter You are and even Charles V.'s cuirass looks correct; did you make Your drawing after this figure of Andrea Miniaturas, omitting the textile parts of the armour?
http://www.andrea-miniatures.com/market ... oDetalle=5
Thanks,
No I did from here Uwe, here is the armor, nex is a wood stamp of Charles & his cousin at left with long beard, he was from the house of Greece (Byzantium) long established in Spain since 1089 AD.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/C ... img014.jpg
Quote:Yes, I can see what you mean. I liked the helm he wore in the film which is based on the covered ears version.
Just found this.....what do you think? http://www.instoneinc.com//gallery/Alex ... reat-O.jpg It's cigar label artwork...
How! it looks from the movies when dont have sounds! :mrgreen:
Quote:I love the drawings, especially your son with Aslan....
Charles in 15th century armour...looks far more like Alexander Was your hair that long....
Thanks, looks like the Lion of Narnia :lol: ...
My hair?:
Yes I always have long hair in diferent ages & I cut it many times for
diferent reasons :wink:
Quote:The image is of Apollo as "Sun Victorious"
Solar sumbols are definitly identified in the hoplite shields from the Archaic Era. The star is not a Star but the Sun. In classical era it ususaly is shown with 8 rays but in the hellenistic period with 16 rays. Bronze age seals and pottery fron Doris has both depictions. So you see it is quite old.
Possibly Alexander offered shields with the sun silvered to his Hypaspists hense in the Successors period they were known as "Argyraspides" literally "silvershields"
Kind regards
Stefanso
I knew Stefanus would agree with me, but Jona's post is interesting also :wink:
[size=150:1co4r031] Strange that my friends called me: Ba' helloi & Hellios, the first dont know the term, but the secon is: The Sun :lol: [/size]
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Khairete,
so would the general opinion be that the mosaic does portray Alexander as Apollo?
Alexander as a son of Zeus would have represented Apollo, the son of Zeus by Leto, his sister Cleopatra, would have been Artemis.
Ammon 'the hidden one' later incorporated into Amen Ra, the sun god.
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Some propaganda like the one Loui 14th liked so much cannot be rulled out,
but I am more inclined to think this is Apollo.
It can fford enough specultation
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Stefanos
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