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Quote:Did you take any pictures of your ordeal? 
I have one picture of the one and only plank on the form - which is as far as I got since I couldn't get another plank to fit up against it just right. It's still on the camera. If I can, I will download it sometime and post it.
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Well, i think it would be very interesting to show the whole process..
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My brother made a dished shield last year. It worked out all right. He didn't take any pictures during the proces though...
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you worry to much Theodoros, we don't care, go ahead for a flat shield.
also, you might want a flat shield anyway for all the abusive combat and such, you don't want to ruin a good one.
it is cool, and good experimental archaeology, let me go get you that address for hide glue manufacturers, and see if they are still active.
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sears roebuck made hide glue a while back, they may still make it. I bought a large supply from a woodworker getting out of the business about 3 years ago, so if you want to leave the facing off your sheild, and bring just the body we can work on it at an event like meigs, or something, using period correct implements, the public would love it.
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Quote:sears roebuck made hide glue a while back, they may still make it. I bought a large supply from a woodworker getting out of the business about 3 years ago, so if you want to leave the facing off your sheild, and bring just the body we can work on it at an event like meigs, or something, using period correct implements, the public would love it.
I'm all for that!
I have the backing material already. But it would be great to do the backing there.
I want to see if I can make a couple of blanks. Let me see what I can do.
If they turn out alright, I would be happy to trade a blank for something else, if there is anyone in the group who wants one. No promises though. First I have to get the thing to work.
I will take more pictures of the process when I make this second attempt and I will post them here.
No, scratch that, FIRST I have to get the time to get it to work. I probably won't get back to it til saturday after next since I am redoing the molding in the kitchen. After that, I will be taking students through the UPenn museum, so I will be pretty busy.
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Take your time. No hurry at all.
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that's right, there really is no rush, we have some gear to loan you if you can't get it done.
you will find reenacting easier to get in to than you think, people often imagine they will show up and there will be no loaner gear, in reality we keep practically an armoury around. We don't have helmets to loan because byzantine era helmets are not ready made like roman stuff, but you can participate without one.
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Quote:Well, i think it would be very interesting to show the whole process..
I'll make you a deal. I won't show you the picture of my abject failure and from now on I will document the whole process.
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Quote:My brother made a dished shield last year. It worked out all right. He didn't take any pictures during the proces though...
Does he have any tips/suggestions?
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Another method for making convex shields is to use the "ring" or "donut" method.
It's much easier though less accurate. OTOH, who can tell the difference ?
Basically you make several rings out of plywood, glue them on top of one another, then shave off the outer corners of the rings to get a smooth surface. It sounds messy but it should cost almost nothing to make yourself. The alternative is to pay several hundred dollars to have someone else make it for you in the correct historical method (like I did).
Some ancient Greek reenactors use the ring method to make their hoplons, which seem to be smaller in diameter and deeper in curvature than late Roman scuta.
Matthew Amt posted a helpful tutorial on his website here : [url:2y1899d8]http://www.larp.com/hoplite/hoplon.html[/url]
And another one can be found here (but it doesn't have any photos) : [url:2y1899d8]http://www.ehow.com/how_4558353_make-spartan-shield.html[/url]
I'd like to try the method myself using a belt sander. The scutum may or may not need fewer rings than a hoplon since the latter is deeper although smaller in diameter. If I do get around to making one I'll be sure to document my progress and share it with everyone.
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