01-30-2006, 11:18 PM
Is there any relation between the words PHOENIX and PHOENICIA?
Ivan Perelló
[size=150:iu1l6t4o]Credo in Spatham, Corvus sum bellorum[/size]
Phoenix & Phoenicia
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01-30-2006, 11:18 PM
Is there any relation between the words PHOENIX and PHOENICIA?
Ivan Perelló [size=150:iu1l6t4o]Credo in Spatham, Corvus sum bellorum[/size]
01-31-2006, 12:50 AM
Yes and no. In Greek it is the same word. Phoinix (gen. phoinikos) can indicate both a Phoenician and the bird. It can also mean purple.
However, the bird's name is derived from Egyptian bennu; it was tempting to render this as phoinix, because it was nice to call the bird "the purple one". Several Greek birds had similar names; for example, there was an eagle that was known as "the black one". To a Greek, it was only logical to call a mysterious bird "purple one".
01-31-2006, 09:48 PM
So the origin might be the purple color, then it gave the name to the land of the murex brandaris-color factory traders, and then they called the magic bird as a purple one?
Ivan Perelló [size=150:iu1l6t4o]Credo in Spatham, Corvus sum bellorum[/size]
02-03-2006, 12:57 PM
Name Phenex (an old man) is mentioned in Homer in Iliad.
The bird is a Bronze age sumbol the has been found all over the Mediterrenean. The purple color is called PHINIKOUN. The Phenecians have been accused of doulble crossing in bussines and in Greek PHINIS is also used to denote the treasonus murderer. Kind regards
HOPLITE14GR (aka Stefanos)
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