Music of Ancient Rome and Greece

[Peter Raftos]

Excellent Sergey - Presocratics go post modern ! But on a serious note, has there been much study on Ancient Greek and Roman dance?. A dancer friend says she will try and find me some scholarly articles but I won't hold my breath. Has anyone (after Isadora Duncan) tried interpretive work and recorded it?

[Susanna]

Our list:

http://www.musica-romana.de/de/medien2.html

or Helmut´s:

http://www.musikarchaeologie.de

on Literatur.

:wink:

I am still working myself through his list, altough I own the most, I will need app. three years more of reading.
:roll:

[Peter Raftos]

Many thanks,
I also found these sites which have a number of interesting links and images:
http://www.carnaval.com/greece/dance/
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Dance.htm

[hoplite14gr]

In the "delphic celebrations" of 1922 the wife of Angelos Sikelianos the poet reconstructed the steps of the "Choros" in the tragedy "Prometheous" from ancient sculpture and pottery.
The film survived and I saw it on the state TV chanell.
The title in Greek was "Delfikes Yiortes".

It might help anyone who reserches Greek dance.

Also Pondioi and Cretans still dance the "Pyrichios".


Kind regards

[Sergey Lenkov]

Ensemble De Organographia released new extended edition of their CD "Music of the Ancient Sumerians, Egyptians and Greeks".
I like this CD for two reasons. Firstly, Philip Neuman and Gayle Stuwe Neuman are performing music of Ancient Greeks or Hurrians as if they just returned from ethnographic expedition and now - they are playing the music of still living ethnos. Secondly - this CD gives possibility to hear the music in very wide chronological range - from the oldest notated music in the history of humankind (circa 1225 BC - music from Mediterranean city Ugarit, which was destroyed by "the Sea People" - but the roots of this music are more deep in the soil of history) to music of the Greeks from epoch of Roman Empire (3-4 centuries AD).
I'm constantly listening to my favourite Ancient Greek anonymous fragments from Oxyrhynchus - tracks 2 (Lament), 3 (Fragment 1), 4 (Paean), 8 (Musical Excerpt). They sounds quite catchy. Track 6 presents different versions of performance of the short piece from the comedy by Menander.
There are no such tracks on CDs by Gregorio Paniagua or Annie Belis.
Hurrian music (with Babylonian notation) seems less developed but the masterpiece - "A zaluzi to gods" (hymn to goddes Nikkal) - sounds poetic and impressive (track 11 - 3:49). By the way, it is music from epoch of Troyan war
Egyptian pieces are re-created according to works by modern researcher Hans Hickman and to ancient sources - descriptions by Plutarch and Apuleus.
Truely there are two new tracks on this CD.
Dynamic Greek "Fragment 3" (track 10) presented with re-recorded bagpipes party.
Completely new record - "Theban banquet scene" (circa 14 BC), re-created from a tomb painting in Thebes. It starts as melancholic harp melody, then rhythm changes and drums with flute are leading the melody.
Melody is beautiful but short (1:33) - still it as an opening, pleasant surprise for us.
Information about CD and soundclips you could check out here:
www.northpacificmusic.com

[Susanna]

Thank you, Sergey.

Troyan war, yes, but Hymn to Nikkal (in Ugarit language) is a prayer to the gods of a woman for pregnancy, if I got it right.
:wink:
But...thinking of Lysistrate... :lol:

Great, I will orde it. :wink:

[Sergey Lenkov]

OK, Susanna !
Now it's your turn!
Waiting for CD by Musica Romana with the sound of organ!

[Susanna]

Being in studio from April 2th to April 15th, booklet will be set in May.
So it will be ready in June. :wink:

[Sergey Lenkov]

D

:wink:
But...thinking of Lysistrate... :lol:

By the way, if we are to beleive "Iliad" - Aphrodita played some role in the events of Troyan war

[Susanna]

Here you are:

http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... 594#134594

[Sergey Lenkov]

Wow! Great! shock:

[Susanna]

Thank you! wink:

I guess I will upload more tracks for prelistening during next month on our own website. :!:
Because they only show such a small amount of kind of sounds of this CD.

[Josef]

http://www.lyravlos.gr/multimedia.asp

good site

[Sergey Lenkov]

Thank you, it's really interesting!:
http://www.lyravlos.gr/multimedia.asp

[Sergey Lenkov]

Waiting for Musica Romana's new album you could read interview with Luis Paniagua, former member of Atrium Musicae De Madrid
http://www.eurock.com/Display.aspx?Cont ... iagua.aspx
This year he would perform conserts using "the Mediterranean lyre constructed as described in the Greek mythology, with a ground turtles shell, two horns and seven intestine strings, the Lira of Hermes, Orpheus and Apollo" with... syntesizers. So he plays modern New Age Ethnic music.

Michael Atherton performing music by Mesomedos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piYpvpBg ... ted&search

Also look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt56nrKt ... ted&search

Warning: CD "Hear Orpheus sings" (Celestial Harmonies) by Michael Atherton is available on some websites and it stated as released - but truely this CD isn't even recorded.