THE REAL ROMAN ARMY vrs. the renactments

[Woadwarrior]

i am not a troll
please dont think that

[Marcus Mummius]

Do you like these better:





There are some movies on the net of mock battles and marching romans. Perhaps someone else has a link.

Regards

[Neuraleanus]

do any of u have any reccomendations for movies that display a historcially accurate rome>?

For example, in the classic movie Spartacus, in my opinion, the mass battle maneuvers that happen towards the end of the movie were quite well done. Just don't look too close at the legionaries. Hollywood tends to mess up the details.

Do u film those renactments?

Yes! A good example is from the first ten minutes of the History channel show, "Engineering an Empire". Here are a few pictures taken during the filming:
[url:3ituy4wf]http://www.geocities.com/legio_tricesima_cohors_tres/eventa/HistoryChannel/HistoryChannel.html[/url]
I'm sure that others can give more examples.

[Praefectusclassis]

Hi Woadwarrior,
You haven't been damned to troll-status yet. If you were, I'd have banned you. So, you're ok! Just one thing: use you real first name in your signature. That will help people believe you are legit, and more importantly, make the mods and admins of this site happy.

[Mithras]

I do agree that often re-enactors don't look like a legion of killers, hungry, lean, over-worked.

We do our best to look mean and butch :lol:

Top picture http://www.comitatus.net/events.htm

[Tarbicus]

, but what about the shileds, didnt the ones in gladiator look more realistic? i mean the renactors shields looked so red, like paint red, and it gladiator it looks like leather and wood, what did u make ur shields out of ?

The shields are usually painted with cassein or encaustic paint.

Now, sit down, take a deep breath, and take a gander at this ancient Greek helmet:

[url:25891lbf]http://erste-legion.de/forum/userpix/12_dsc00096_1.jpg[/url]

And yes, it's based on a Greek sculpture that is painted. Even the armour is bright blue and yellow. As Travis says, those ancients really did love their colour if they could afford it.

[Woadwarrior]

ok forgive me
those pics look really great
i hope you think those two pics are authentic enough

i de like some more reply though

did the ancient greeks really wear that colered helmets???

[Marcus Mummius]

I think those two pics I posted (they, and a lot more can be seen in this thread: http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?t=3169 )
show what a soldier on a long campaign might have looked like. Soldiers in camp would have had a much cleaner kit though.

Best regards,

[Woadwarrior]

yeah i posted another board on this subject on another site does it matter
???

i cant go to geocities do u have any more clips on the internet

[tlclark]

ok forgive me
those pics look really great
i hope you think those two pics are authentic enough

i de like some more reply though

did the ancient greeks really wear that colered helmets???

Oh yes definitely! And Romans had roses on their armor. Reconstructing from frescoes is always difficult since there is a limited palette available, but if the Vergina fresoces are any inclination then the colors represented by Greek soldiers were: Yellow, both light and dark ochre, pink,( yes pink!), both pastel and hot, blue in all shades, light green, blue-green, dark green, tan, light brown, black, red and many many others.

A lot of the "feminine" and pastel colors are as well attested to as the darker colors.

[hoplite14gr]

i de like some more reply though

did the ancient greeks really wear that colered helmets???

Visit the threads of the Greek History section, Francis
You will find more than coloured armor :!: :!:
Kind regards

[Titus Martius]

Woadwarrior,

- think first before writing rather silly posts
- read thoroughly this and other websites, learn from books
- then join the forum
- write posts without insultations (hope you do not question scholarschip and knowledge of historians here), or keep quiet

I have found in this forum a valuable link to the Gladiator movie review, and to other Hollywood movies... you may find them, too.

By the way, this forum is really a gold mine of excellent informations, and free of charge...

Reading your posts I fell bad on time wasted by others trying to give answers to somebody who does not care, unless you are provoking intentionally.


Sorry to all, but I can't stop myself from writing above.

[Cornelius Quintus]

Ave Woadwarrior,

the ‘Hollywood-Look’ tries to increase the emotions of the spectators. Therefore it won’t feature the most accurate historical outfit, but that one, the audience would expect to get in the right mood. “Dirty and rustyâ€

[tlclark]

Cornelius Quintus\\n[quote]Ave Woadwarrior,

the ‘Hollywood-Look’ tries to increase the emotions of the spectators. Therefore it won’t feature the most accurate historical outfit, but that one, the audience would expect to get in the right mood. “Dirty and rustyâ€

[Marius_Ursus]

In the LEGIO IX HISPANA reenactment group, we wear a padded cloth cap under our helmets and a padded jacket under our armor. Our shields are made from molded wood with a cloth (I think it's linen.) cover that's painted over. Our sandals are made from historical patterns, layered leather on the soles and hobnails, even using horseglue to layer the soles and sinewy thread to sew them. Hibernicus even has a forge to make our pila heads and other sundry iron objects. We keep everything as accurate as possible.

The pants aren't pants in the modern sense. They're knee-length breeches called "feminalia" which the legionaries wore in colder climates.

The makeup in Gladiator, wasn't anything outstanding like special effects makeup, but it was subtle, "Make this guy look gruff!" makeup. A scar here, a few age lines, "dirt" on his face...stuff like that.

The armor is wrong, bad hinges, hinges in the wrong locations, helmets too round on top and too flat in the back.

The Polish version of Quo Vadis is pretty accurate...most accurate costumes I've seen, but still, the little details, as always are off.