typical roman soldier: large red shield, short gladius sword, heavy throwing pilum, and plate lorica segmentata.
when did this typical roman military dress first begin?
and when did they stop using it and why? and to what?
and im sorry i keep posing questions, i kno alot more than u think about roman history, im not a retard. ive been reading books about the romans for about 5 years. i kno u guys are the experts
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The earliest finds of lorica segmentata parts date to the late first century BC, and are of the Kalkriese type. The Corbridge styles were in use by 43 AD (the invasion of Britain). The latest known pieces seem to come from around 300 AD, as I recall.
Remember that although we do think of the look you describe as "typical", many legionaries were wearing mail or scale armor right through this period, and there is still much debate about colors, of course.
There is also a HUGE long discussion somewhere on this board (and similar ones on other boards!) about WHY the lorica segmentata was developed and why it ultimately disappeared. In short, we don't know! All we can do is speculate. (Can anyone dig up that old discussion so we don't have to discuss it all again?)
For the rest of the items you mention, large shields and short swords go back to Romulus' time, though for much of the 2nd and 1st centuries BC the longer gladius hispaniensis was also in use. The pilum also has a long history, in several different forms. Of course, the details of any piece of gear changed over the centuries, so you wouldn't see a first-century scutum back in the 8th century BC.
Don't worry about asking questions! Sometimes they might simply be too huge or complex to tackle on a board like this. You can find out a lot about lorica segmentata in the books on that subject by MC Bishop and Mike Thomas, for instance.
Oh, can you please spell out all your words rather than using "text messaging" abbreviations? They are hard for me to read, and must be even harder for folks who don't speak English as a first language. Thanks!
Vale,
Matthew
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can u please find that old board
im sorry , i will write in proper english
what would i type in in the search thing, i typed in a title of one of my posts and it got no replys
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I just tried 'lorica segmentata' with the setting 'Search for all terms' and found 296 threads.
yes but its hard to find the exact one i need
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That's the trouble, you have to figure out the right words in a post to find it. Try different combinations with lorica segmentata?
