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Which colors did the colored glass have in the original berkasovo helmet?
In pictures I see it having black and white stones/glass.
But with reproductions and painted drawings I see the berkasovo helmet having red and green colored glass.
I don't know if the color has faded or something that due to it's age... anyway it kinda confuses me. Perhaps somebody can explain?
Thanks
front side original:
back side original (left one ):
replica:
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Ok, here it is:
The stones, glass imitations of jewels represent 3 precious stones: emerald (green), onyx (with violet and white flames) and chalzedon (?) (dark blue with a black rim).
Quote from: Klumbach, Hans (ed.) (1973): Spätrömische Gardehelme, Münchener Beiträge zur Vor- und Frühgeschichte 15, (München), p. 19.
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I've always asked myself what is the writing in greek on the side of the helmet and what it means... Unfortunately I don't know the ancient greek...
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... Tu modo nascenti puero, quo ferrea primum
desinet ac toto surget Gens Aurea mundo,
casta faue Lucina; tuus iam regnat Apollo ...
Vergilius, Bucolicae, ecloga IV, 4-10
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Would that be the translation?
"DIZZON WEAR IN HEALTH - WORK OF AVITUS"
Tot ziens.
Geert S. (Sol Invicto Comiti)
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Thanks a lot!
Is it too much If I ask for the exact greek writing too? I'd like to make a replica in fututre and I cannot read from the photos I have...
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... Tu modo nascenti puero, quo ferrea primum
desinet ac toto surget Gens Aurea mundo,
casta faue Lucina; tuus iam regnat Apollo ...
Vergilius, Bucolicae, ecloga IV, 4-10
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That i don't have. I'm not that sure I have the right translation. But if you want to be sure ask Vortigern here on the forum. I found him somewhere on an other forum talking about this helmet.
http://p200.ezboard.com/fromanarmytalkf ... 21&stop=40
Tot ziens.
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Quote:I found him somewhere on an other forum talking about this helmet.
It's not another forum. It's RAT 'v.1' :wink:
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Ahh the V.1... When the Ratters were young bad and grunting, on a black/red field
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casta faue Lucina; tuus iam regnat Apollo ...
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On the original helmet it looks like the cheek pieces are curved, but I'm not certain.
Has anyone seen it from a front angle ?
If they are curved, I'd like to try to curve the ones on mine to match.
Theo
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Quote:On the original helmet it looks like the cheek pieces are curved, but I'm not certain.
Hi Jaime,
Yes, they're curved allright. No, I can't show you, I'm still in the process of getting my imagebase back...
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Quote:Yes, they're curved allright. No, I can't show you, I'm still in the process of getting my imagebase back...
Thanks, Valerius. That's ok, I just wanted to know if they were curved. Now if I can get mines to do the same my helmet won't look so long (I think). Seems quite a challenge to bend them since they're so large :? )
Theo
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Theo, does this picture help you?
I have also bent my Burgh Castle helmets cheekpieces so they would be more convex. The problem is that without forging the cheekpieces tend to bounce back a bit...
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Virilis, that photo sure does help ! Thank you
May I ask how you bent your cheek pieces to make them more convex ?
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The cheekpieces of my helmet are made from mild steel. I just bent them against a corner of a chair :oops: ....
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