07-29-2003, 12:13 AM
StrategyM wrote:<br>
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"7) Praetorians - will as usual live off their popular reputation instead of being modelled correctly. And it seems that we will see them even in the early Republic, to judge from this wildly erroneous statement: "Historically, Scipio Africanus created the Praetorians from his most trusted troops, and exempted them from all duties except that of guarding his person."<br>
Woad warriors... belong to another age, if they existed at all."<br>
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What do you mean "modelled correctly"?<br>
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Praetorian units were used by Scipio - indeed by pretty much every Roman general, since they are headquarters guards - that's what Praetorian means - headquarters - every Roman camp had one!<br>
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Augustus raised the Praetorian GUARD in 31BC, which puts it firmly within the RTW era. they were the best of the veteran legionaries from the previous civil wars - from both sides, and should have a considerable fightign ability at that time. Their degeneracy came much later, but was still mainly political rather than being a problem on the battlefield - they fought well enough at Milvan Bridge although tye weer defeated, their last battle after which Constantine disbanded them.<br>
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"Woad warriors" - well there were certainly warriors who wore lots of Woad - Picts, Britons and Gauls all spring to mind. Perhaps this unit is supposed to be their standard warbgand? <p></p><i></i>
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"7) Praetorians - will as usual live off their popular reputation instead of being modelled correctly. And it seems that we will see them even in the early Republic, to judge from this wildly erroneous statement: "Historically, Scipio Africanus created the Praetorians from his most trusted troops, and exempted them from all duties except that of guarding his person."<br>
Woad warriors... belong to another age, if they existed at all."<br>
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What do you mean "modelled correctly"?<br>
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Praetorian units were used by Scipio - indeed by pretty much every Roman general, since they are headquarters guards - that's what Praetorian means - headquarters - every Roman camp had one!<br>
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Augustus raised the Praetorian GUARD in 31BC, which puts it firmly within the RTW era. they were the best of the veteran legionaries from the previous civil wars - from both sides, and should have a considerable fightign ability at that time. Their degeneracy came much later, but was still mainly political rather than being a problem on the battlefield - they fought well enough at Milvan Bridge although tye weer defeated, their last battle after which Constantine disbanded them.<br>
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"Woad warriors" - well there were certainly warriors who wore lots of Woad - Picts, Britons and Gauls all spring to mind. Perhaps this unit is supposed to be their standard warbgand? <p></p><i></i>
