04-02-2010, 11:51 AM
[color=#BF4000]Alanus wrote:I knew the Podolian cattle were genetically related to the Hungarian gray cattle... which are related to the Ukrainian gc. All the same roots there, I believe. My bowyer, Csaba Grozer, thinks they came in with the Magyars, but I believe they came from Alanic-Taifali root stock, long before the Magyars.
Can you expand on why you beieve that please?
Conal, I believe it too. Herodotus, for one (I seem to recall) mentions these gigantic herds of cattle. They are were domesticated Auroch type animals. The last Auroch was killed in POland in 1600 s but there may have been later ones. The name of these animals is Bos Primogenis. They found in all the old Sarmatian countries..Serbia, Hungary, POland, Northern Italy, Ukraine etc etc. Very big export trade in them from all those places for hundreds of years. In Armorica, I was informed, they somehow crossed to Jersey and Guernsey to form the breeds there. There was a land bridge still. That was prior to the great flood of the 10 seventies. I ve lost my contacts at Unis over this, sad to say, because I think the cattle and dog lineages are very full of potential. Horses not. As Alanus says, it wasnt the Magyars who spread these coes!! It happened earlier. The Huns had them too and drove them into Europe, spreading murrain everywhere they went....destroying the food and logistics of all their enemies. I assume the Alans caused similar.
Can you expand on why you beieve that please?
Conal, I believe it too. Herodotus, for one (I seem to recall) mentions these gigantic herds of cattle. They are were domesticated Auroch type animals. The last Auroch was killed in POland in 1600 s but there may have been later ones. The name of these animals is Bos Primogenis. They found in all the old Sarmatian countries..Serbia, Hungary, POland, Northern Italy, Ukraine etc etc. Very big export trade in them from all those places for hundreds of years. In Armorica, I was informed, they somehow crossed to Jersey and Guernsey to form the breeds there. There was a land bridge still. That was prior to the great flood of the 10 seventies. I ve lost my contacts at Unis over this, sad to say, because I think the cattle and dog lineages are very full of potential. Horses not. As Alanus says, it wasnt the Magyars who spread these coes!! It happened earlier. The Huns had them too and drove them into Europe, spreading murrain everywhere they went....destroying the food and logistics of all their enemies. I assume the Alans caused similar.
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