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JRSCline · 06-17-2004, 02:27 AM

Antoninus, can't you lengthen their legs a teensy bit? 
 
(Or are you aiming for a bona fide Italian build? ) 
 
Jenny

06-17-2004, 11:16 AM

Yep.. Still a bit too short.. 
Which is funny because, before I got old and began to wear glasses they were sort of too thin and tall.. 
Next time I'll try the professional way. First get the proportions right, then begin sketching.. 
It looks like I forgot two inches of either thighs or hips on that one.

Flavius · 06-25-2004, 04:15 PM

Salvete commilitones, 
talking about sketches, here it is one I made some time ago (coloured pencils on usual paper). 
Suggestions and critics are highly appreciated. 
Valete omnes. 
 
<img src="http://www.qsl.net/iz0ehi/Signifer.jpg" style="border:0;"/> --------- 
Fecisti patriam diversis gentibus unam; 
profuit iniustis te dominante capi; 
dumque offers victis proprii consortia iuris, 
Urbem fecisti, quod prius orbis erat. 
(Rutilius Namatianus - De Reditu Suo, I, 63-66) Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=flavius@romanarmytalk>Flavius</A> at: 6/26/04 11:41 pm

Vincula · 06-26-2004, 06:17 PM

Sorry but I can't see any picture, Flavius.

Flavius · 06-26-2004, 09:52 PM

Salve, 
I hope now it's all OK. 
The subject was: charge after pila release. 
Here I've got another one: auxiliaries during the Dacian Wars. 
Valete omnes. 
<img src="http://www.qsl.net/iz0ehi/Auxilia.jpg" style="border:0;"/> --------- 
Fecisti patriam diversis gentibus unam; 
profuit iniustis te dominante capi; 
dumque offers victis proprii consortia iuris, 
Urbem fecisti, quod prius orbis erat. 
(Rutilius Namatianus - De Reditu Suo, I, 63-66)

Crispvs · 06-29-2004, 07:36 PM

I liked the details of the combat damage to the helmet of the soldier in the foreground of the first picture, as well as the blood on the sword and the centurio's pteruges. It's good to be reminded from time to time that things do not remain in pristine condition for very long in battle. 
I have one or two issues with the auxiliary infantryman in the second picture though. Although Trajan's Column does show scarves worn like this, I think that the soldier would probably, in reality, have worn it under his mail to save the rings from irritating his neck and would certainly have worn it under the sword baldric, which would otherwise end up rubbing painfully against his neck. I think that the helmet, too, would date to some time after the Dacian wars. The helmet that Robinson used for the modern reconstruction had had its neck guard cut away and holes punched around the entire circumferance at a later stage in history to that within which it must have entered service. Thus it cannot be given a secure 'entry' date in the early second century. The crossed reinforcements however, are of a much more developed form than those of the Berzobis (dating to the Dacian campaigns) and Hebron (probably dating the some years after the Dacian wars) helmets and more closely resemble reinforcements found on the so called Cavalry types 'D' and 'E', dating to the later second or possibly even third century as well as reinforcments of similar date from places such as Corbridge. 
 
Hope this seems constructive. 
 
Crispvs

Flavius · 06-30-2004, 05:15 AM

Salve Crispus, 
thanks a lot for your precious remarks. 
The auxiliary helmet was really successive to the Dacian Wars: well, I'll be more accurate in the next drawings. 
Here I've got another one: 
"Bordering the limes" 
No dates, this time , but further remarks will be welcome to improve myself. 
Ave atque vale! 
Flavius 
 
<img src="http://www.qsl.net/iz0ehi/Draco.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

**Robert Vermaat** · 06-30-2004, 05:47 AM

Hi Flavius, 
 
The best so far! I really like the draco.. 
Just two small remarks. 
1) Should the horses be that big? I thought Junkelmann showed that the horses for the regular cavalry were a bit shorter. 
2) a question - where is the pole for the draco resting on? 
 
Valete, 
Valerius/Robert

Jeroen Pelgrom · 06-30-2004, 06:02 AM

wow, you guys can all paint/ draw very good! 
keep up the good work! ------------------------------------------------------- 
Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings -- they did it by killing all those who opposed them.

Flavius · 07-01-2004, 06:25 AM

Gratias vobis ago, commilitones, 
for your appreciation. 
Valerii, Junkelmann is right of course, but the horses depicted aren't so big as the actual regular "arabic" race, for example. 
Anyway I promise to draw a new sketch with shorter legs, and, in your honour, with a third century subject! 
About the pole for the draco, ehm, I drew it in that way to allow a good view: a little bit tiring for the bearer, though... 
 
In the meanwhile here it is a backview of a marching century: 
"Toward the enemy" or "The job of an optio" 
(Sorry for the poor quality of the scanning). 
<img src="http://www.qsl.net/iz0ehi/Optio.jpg" style="border:0;"/> 
Valete omnes.

JRSCline · 07-04-2004, 04:43 AM

You guys really do amaze me. People at RAT are so multitalented! Kudos! 
 
Jenny 
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"The great majority of mankind are satisfied with appearances, as though they are realities, and are often even more influenced by the things that seem than by those that are." 
-- NiccolÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â³ Machiavelli, The Discourses, 1517.

Muzzaguchi · 07-05-2004, 10:50 PM

Okay, 
 
I am very new at this image hosting business so I hope this works. Here is a portrait I painted of Domitian based on a bust in the British Museum<img src="http://img36.exs.cx/img36/373/DomitianPortrait.jpg" style="border:0;"/> 
 
Cheers 
 
Muzzaguchi It is an unscrupulous intellect that does not pay Antiquity its due reverence - Erasmus of Rotterdam 
 
'Modern history, like a deaf man, answers questions no one asks' - Tolstoy War and Peace Ep. ii.1

07-07-2004, 11:42 AM

Nice! 
We wouldn't mind details, like what size is the work, what medium did you use and on what kind of support? 
It looks like a surrealistic painting. I like it.

Muzzaguchi · 07-07-2004, 09:55 PM

Hi, 
 
Thanks. It is oil on canvas and the size - well the picture is bigger! So its small - 12.5 x 18 cm or 4 3/4 x 7 inches. The portrait its based on is damaged - half the head is missing. We don't know if the damage was part of a damnatio memoriae or occurred later. That is probably what gives it a surrealist appearance. 
 
Cheers 
 
Muzzaguchi

Flavius · 07-29-2004, 01:30 PM

Saluete omnes! 
Here it is my latest drawing. 
Yes, I definitely prefer the good old republican times... 
Please let me know possible improvements to bring to the sketch. 
Valete omnes. 
Flavius 
<img src="http://www.qsl.net/iz0ehi/Velites.jpg" style="border:0;"/> --------- 
Fecisti patriam diversis gentibus unam; 
profuit iniustis te dominante capi; 
dumque offers victis proprii consortia iuris, 
Urbem fecisti, quod prius orbis erat. 
(Rutilius Namatianus - De Reditu Suo, I, 63-66)

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