Full Circle Panuela ?

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Did the greeks not dress their ephebes in black, until they had completed their military training?

[Marcus Mummius]

Perhaps a bit off topic but here's a photo of me and two comilitones wearing our paenula.



Vale,

[Graham Sumner]

Not off topic at all Jef

Good colour and a nice 'W' shape especially on the middle one. Looks like you have gone for the two button and two toggle type fasteners as well.

I presume they all have hoods too, in which case you can see why it is not always clear that they have them on some tombstone images. But as John Peter Wild said to me if they do not have hoods then they are not Paenula cloaks.

Graham.

[Marcus Mummius]

Thanks Graham, I'm very glad you like them! I took your advice when I had them made so it's thanks to you if they're good :wink:

We experimented with several methods of wearing and now I'm very aware of the multifunctionality of this garment.

The paenula can be worn in such a multitude of different ways... It's a great piece of fabric

Oh and they all have hoods, yes.

My tunic (I'm the one in the middle) and my friend's at the right are handwoven (from Cacaius) and we dyed them with madder. I'm wearing a hat with a stripe pattern that's made with the naaldbindung technique (great as a helmet liner!).

Vale,
Jef

[Matt Lukes]

Matt in my research to prove to some Viking Age reenactors that there were black sheep I found out that the Hebridian breed commonly has black sheep.

Ah, well this does show that it wasn't such a rare phenotype in the past- so it's not so difficult to think that it might have been so even earlier and in other regions too. Their rarity nowadays could-well be a result of selective breeding FOR white ones.

Those paenulae are great Jef- and I'm very surprised at how difficult it is to see the hoods when down...

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Reminds me of an old nursery rhyme......

[Gaivs Antonivs Satvrninvs]

Very nice,Marcus Mummius !
Getting back to paenula dimensions,I'm surprised Hibernicus hasn't commented on this since his looks to be the right size.
I tried a mock-up using Graham's suggested 3mx1.35m and it worked perfectly. Converted to inches, it's 3m=120"=10'wide by(1.5m=60"=5' less hood cut-out about 10" leaves 1.35m. If the center axis is used as a reference for the circular cut top and bottom it should be the same length all around. Does this sound right,guys? Trying to get those metric numbers to something I can work with here.
Anyone have a suggestion as to wool weight? Some paenulae look very thin while others seem to be "coat weight"(whatever that is).

[Primvs Pavlvs]

Andy I have made them from both heavy weight, and medium weight wool The medium weight seems to give the best look.

[Martin Wallgren]

Matt in my research to prove to some Viking Age reenactors that there were black sheep I found out that the Hebridian breed commonly has black sheep.

Ah, well this does show that it wasn't such a rare phenotype in the past- so it's not so difficult to think that it might have been so even earlier and in other regions too. Their rarity nowadays could-well be a result of selective breeding FOR white ones.

Those paenulae are great Jef- and I'm very surprised at how difficult it is to see the hoods when down...

I agree! Most sheep I´ve met here in Sweden are dark grey! My mom and dad have sheep and sometimes they are dark enough to be almost black at least the first years. They tend to get lighter when they get older.

This might have been a red herring and if so I´m sorry!

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

I see now Armillum is offering paenulas in the brown color again! :x x

[LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS]

My paenula it's half a cercle and it's black coloured.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

mine is a dark grey, but would like the brown too! I'm greedy that way! :lol:

[Salvianus]

I am intrigued by the reconstruction of a C5th or 'baroque' paenula featured in D'Amato's Roman Military Clothing (3), which is based on carvings on the door panels at Santa Sabina in Rome & has a much shorter front section:

Judgment of Jesus

As rains like the fall of ruined seas from secret worlds above lash down on England, I am thinking about making a quick & dirty extra cloak for the weekend's event. My guess is that a poncho design based on a rectangle with rounded corners and a neck opening two thirds of the way along might make the basic shape, perhaps narrowed a bit more on the front & I'll worry about Clavi at a little more leisure.

What do you think? Has anyone tried making one?

[John Conyard]

Hi Steve,

Mine is based on a half circle design, closed down the front, with a hood. When the front area is pushed back over the shoulders the effect is to make it seem as if the front is much shorter than the the back, but that is in fact not the case. Views of the cloak can be seen on pictures of the Wall walk last September. When pushed back the cloak becomes easy to wear, and I don't suffer from over-heating. But there is enough material to keep me warm at night.

The cloak got quite a soaking today. The smell of wet wool is just so evocative...

[Robert Vermaat]

As rains like the fall of ruined seas from secret worlds above lash down on England

Wow, that IS poetry!!