Alert! Roman objects from Hadrian Wall neighbourhood.

[Tarbicus]

Don't worry, the lamp is definitely not roman, and the pic of the first object is very unfocused. The whole story is very dubious.

Who's that? What's your real name? How come you get to 45 posts whilst being anonymous? Why are they not Roman and dubiously genuine?

And how come my reply ended at the start of the topic??

hock: :?

[Andreas Gobinius]

Dear members of RAT from the United Kingdom,
I have received a CD with some pictures of archaeological objects made by archaeologist working in Neolithic Mines Museum in Krzemionki in Poland today. These objects were showed him by local collector of antiquities. He wanted to know dating of these objects. I was astonished by information that 2 objects visible on these pictures come from Hadrian Wall neighborhood. They were presumably explored by building workers in the act of building of a road there. Polish gaffer have took these relics and probably sold to the collector. I was astonished, that such a building is being made without archaeological service. But there is a possibility, that workers have stolen these relics though an supervision of archaeologists. Probably this situation needs any reaction. In Poland all archaeological relics are the property of the government. Of course we have a lot of problems here with illegal explorations and other acts of destroying of archaeological context though the state of the law. But I think, that all people present here were interested in preservation of Roman heritage, than I decided to write this information, particularly for users from the UK. It is a great pity, that such objects were picked out the context without any documentation. Below I present 3 pictures of mentioned objects. I am sorry for the quality of them, but they are the best from that I have received.
I am not sure about origin and function of the first object made of bronze probably:
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The second one is a bronze lamp of very fine shape and ornament. I have never seen such type with lid.
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I will be grateful if somebody shows me the type or analogies for this finds.

[Arahne]

Don't worry, the lamp is definitely not roman, and the pic of the first object is very unfocused. The whole story is very dubious.

[Arahne]

Don't worry, the lamp is definitely not roman, and the pic of the first object is very unfocused. The whole story is very dubious.

Who's that? What's your real name? How come you get to 45 posts whilst being anonymous? Why are they not Roman and dubiously genuine?

And how come my reply ended at the start of the topic??

hock: :?

Keep on knockin' but you can't come in . Haire Tarbicus. Why do you worry so much about my profile? That lamp is not roman because of its patina, decoration, handle, disk, nozzle.

[Tarbicus]

Ta

Forum rules say you have to at least put your first real name in your sig. There are exceptions though (for world leaders, etc). :wink:

[aitor iriarte]

C'mon Stefan, add your name to your signature and make us happy! :wink:
And, yes, Aladdin would feel happier with this lamp than a Roman... :lol:

Aitor

[Andreas Gobinius]

Hi all,
I`m happy that these objects are not Roman I have suspected that (however I`m not a specialist of bronze lamps), but all story is not as dubious as Arahne has written, unfortunately. There is possibility that our informer tells the truth about origin of these objects, because we know a lot of objects (unfortunately certainly Roman) from Bulgaria, Macedonia and Romania for instance. They are being sold in Poland very often. So I was concerned by eventual context of these object more then the real value of these relics.

[Arahne]

Hi all,
I`m happy that these objects are not Roman I have suspected that (however I`m not a specialist of bronze lamps), but all story is not as dubious as Arahne has written, unfortunately. There is possibility that our informer tells the truth about origin of these objects, because we know a lot of objects (unfortunately certainly Roman) from Bulgaria, Macedonia and Romania for instance. They are being sold in Poland very often. So I was concerned by eventual context of these object more then the real value of these relics.

Quoting just to see if sig works now. it seems dubious to me that workers in England sell stuff from Hadrian's wall. Just my opinion.

[Robert Vermaat]

it seems dubious to me that workers in England sell stuff from Hadrian's wall. Just my opinion.

Unfortunately, it's not the first time that equipment from that area reaches private ownership without being properly evaluated. For instance, there's a piece of scale armour that's been claimed as 'Sarmatian', but it went never through the hands of an expert. So dating is impossible, as is a true check of the exact find spot.

[Andreas Gobinius]

Dear Arahne,
The fact is that it is dubious, but I have unfortunately bad experiences from my country... I work for 12 years in Monuments Preservation Office, but I have been never informed by workers about any archaeological find. We have had some information from other people, about treasures of coins even, but they were not building workers... Sorry, there is one exception )

[Andreas Gobinius]

I have just removed pictures of objects from the server, though they are not Roman. If there is anybody interested in them, I will be able to send them by e-mail.