flying 262s again...

[Narukami]

Ha!
Good one Comerus! D

Even so...

A TIE Interceptor is still a wickedly good looking craft.

:wink:

Narukami

[Cornelius Quintus]

Ave omnes,

another gruesome abuse of a German semi national symbol :lol:

[TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS]

Coming back "barely" to the planes we love (passion is passion and I LOVE the 262 and the 190 d-9 above all!







Valete,

[Robert Vermaat]

Daniele, beautiful artwork! Laudes for you.

But what's the use for that rudder underneath the body of that B&V P.207/03? It must have had an immensely hign landing gear (meaning vulnerable)!
How come the Italian colours?

I like that JU EF 128, do you have shots from different angles?

'Second Battle of Britain, 1946'??

[Cornelius Quintus]

Ave Daniele,

great paintings! Do you paint the artwork for some model kits?
Such might-have-been--prototypes are very popular around here, and some manufacturers like HUMA offered a large range of these.

Ever thought about the British side. How would a 'second battle of Britain' Hawker fighter, equipped with Gloster's Meteor jet engines, have been called? 'Hurry, Caine' ? :wink:

Thinking about the courage of the RAF pilots, the 1946 German planes should have featured a lower-able seaplane floating gear - makes landing on the English Channel much easier after being shot down ;-) )

[Tarbicus]

Ever thought about the British side. How would a 'second battle of Britain' Hawker fighter, equipped with Gloster's Meteor jet engines, have been called? 'Hurry, Caine' ? Wink

No need, we had the Mosquito which no other prop-driven plane could catch. Instead of going to exotic materials and exotic propulsion we turned to village carpenters and more old fashioned tech (wood) :wink:

[Cornelius Quintus]

Instead of going to exotic materials and exotic propulsion we turned to village carpenters and more old fashioned tech (wood) :wink:

Ave Jim,

I always liked that De Havilland (and built a 1/32 scale model years ago).
So there might be no flying saucers, but a proven kind of 'flying scutum' :lol:

[TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS]

Thank you, Robert!

The BV P.207.03 had a tricycle gear:

[url:jt0pfzdu]http://www.luft46.com/bv/bv.html[/url]

[url:jt0pfzdu]http://www.luft46.com/bv/bv207-3.html[/url]

The italian markings are seen in a "what if" view, here I explained them:

[url:jt0pfzdu]http://www.luft46.com/dsart/ds20703.html[/url]

The Junkers projects page is:
[url:jt0pfzdu]http://www.luft46.com/junkers/junkers.html[/url]

The JU EF 128 page with original models pics:
[url:jt0pfzdu]http://www.luft46.com/junkers/juef128.html[/url]

The JU EF 128 my art page with other views is: [url:jt0pfzdu]http://www.luft46.com/dsart/ds128.html[/url]

See also at the [url:jt0pfzdu]http://www.luft46.com/[/url] the almost boundless german projects page (it can take a whole week to see and read everything, but it's the best in the web for its historic accuracy and incredible amount of material) you will find everything known about the subject.

Vale,

[Robert Vermaat]

Ah, great stuff - you're a true artist!

[TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS]

:oops:

[mcbishop]

No need, we had the Mosquito which no other prop-driven plane could catch. Instead of going to exotic materials and exotic propulsion we turned to village carpenters and more old fashioned tech (wood) :wink:

And a pink undercoat that was to lead to the SAS' favoured desert camouflage... or was it Lady Penelope's Rolls Royce? ;-)

Mike Bishop

[richsc]

Getting back to that 262, did they have to license that from Messerschmidt? I just have to wonder what the FAA regulations would be for a production run of an aircraft like that.

[Tarbicus]

And a pink undercoat that was to lead to the SAS' favoured desert camouflage

Did they? hock: Even more kudos!

[TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS]

Jim wrote:

No need, we had the Mosquito which no other prop-driven plane could catch. Instead of going to exotic materials and exotic propulsion we turned to village carpenters and more old fashioned tech (wood)

Exotic propulsion? Jim you could have surprises about that!

"Sir Frank Whittle was an English aviation engineer and pilot, the son of a mechanic, Frank Whittle joined the Royal Air Force or RAF as an apprentice. He joined an RAF fighter squadron in 1928 and became a test pilot in 1931. The young RAF officer was only 22 when he first thought to use a gas turbine engine to power an airplane. While often regarded as the father of modern jet propulsion systems, the young Frank Whittle tried without success to obtain official support for study and development of his ideas. He had to persist his research on his own initiative and received his first patent on turbojet propulsion in January 1930."

History: Gloster-Whittle E.28/39 Jet Aircraft 1941
The first Allied jet aircraft, the Gloster-Whittle E.28/39 first flew briefly on 8 May 1941 while on taxiing trials, although the first official flight took place on 15 May. Gloster E28/39 with Whittle WIX jet eingine, at Cranwell, England, flown by Flight Lt. Sayer for about 17 minutes. The Gloster Whittle
E29/39 jet aircraft was powered by the Whittle Jet Engine W1.
of the W1's castings and other components had to be
manufactured from stainless steel to withstand the high
temperatures generated within the engine.


The airframe of the E.28/39 was built by the Gloster aircraft company and proved the turbojet concept which had been under development by Frank Whittle and his company since 1936.
The E.28/39 was the forebear of the Gloster Meteor, which, unlike the experimental Gloster-Whittle, saw active service during the Second World War against the V-1 flying bombs.
The E.28/39 was surprisingly successful, considering the novelty of the technology it used, and was the first real proof that jet propulsion was a viable alternative to the propeller.

"Doctor Hans Von Ohain was a German airplane designer who invented an operational jet engine. Hans Von Ohain obtained his doctorate in Physics at the University of Göttingen in Germany and then became the junior assistant to Hugo Von Pohl, director of the Physical Institute at the University. German aircraft builder, Ernst Heinkel asked the university for assistance in new airplane propulsion designs and Pohl recommended his star pupil. Hans Von Ohain, was investigating a new type of aircraft engine that did not require a propeller. Only twenty-two years old when he first conceived the idea of a continuous cycle combustion engine in 1933, Hans Von Ohain patented a jet propulsion engine design similar in concept to that of Sir Frank Whittle but different in internal arrangement in 1934.
Hans Von Ohain joined Ernst Heinkel in 1936 and continued with the development of his concepts of jet propulsion. A successful bench test of one of his engines was accomplished in September 1937. A small aircraft was designed and constructed by Ernst Heinkel to serve as a test bed for the new type of propulsion system - the Heinkel He178. The Heinkel He178 flew for the first time on August 27, 1939. The pilot on this historic first flight of a jet-powered airplane was Flight Captain Erich Warsitz."

P.S. Anyway many german really flying planes (for example, several parts of the Focke-Wulf Ta152H) or projects were designed as totally wooden planes or partially wooden, as also the Ju EF 128 (wooden wings).

Also the wonderful japanese Nakajima Ki-84 (below) was built as partially or entirely wooden variant (Ki-106).


Vale,

[Tarbicus]

I knew all about that one thanks Daniele. I'm just in love with the Mosquito and the story behind it. :wink: