Bronze cast items

[Matthew Amt]

Scans! Yes! Finally! Well, one at least, to get you started. I can do more, gotta browse through my sources to find good drawings. These ones are from France:

http://www.larp.com/hoplite/castsprs1.jpg

I'll post some Mycenaean styles next, but have to ask some questions about them over on the Bronze Age Center. Many of them have split sockets, which is weird!! Are they cast to that shape, simply to allow them to fit better on the shaft? There's a ring at the base obviously added to hold the split closed. Or are they cast with the socket laid out flat, and then it is wrapped to shape? That doesn't seem likely, due to all the fluting and decoration on them. Wacky. But I'll find out more (hopefully) and get back to you.

Any idea of a price on something like this?

Happy casting!

Matthew

[Anonymous]

I think Tarquitius will make cast items, so a helmet and a bell cuirass are not included...

What about hilting parts and chape for swords? And the internal fittings for a shield?

I'd second that. And some small disc brooches for closing chitons.

[Servio Caro (Javier Sánc]

here are some nice brooches that could be used as a model for Hellenistic period:



maybe over 6 cm in diameter would be enough

[Gaivs Antonivs Satvrninvs]

I would also like to see a greek leaf-shaped spearhead and proper buttspike, especially. I'd think the Medusa heads would be good, too.

[Giannis K. Hoplite]

Those brooches are very beautiful. However I tend to think that in whitons(when they didn't shew them) they used buttons and not brooches.
Butt spikes for hoplite spear is a VERY good idea! Hoplon fittings,too. those are items every Greek re-enactors will always need.
Khairete
Giannis

[Kallimachos]

here are some nice brooches that could be used as a model for Hellenistic period:



maybe over 6 cm in diameter would be enough

Do you have more detailed information about this brooches?

[Servio Caro (Javier Sánc]

Hello kallimachos,

there isn't so much information about these brooches, I know they were used as models for the movie alexander the great by Oliver Stone. I know movies are a bad way to follow :oops: , but I think this historical movie is the most accurate movie in costumes, armours, etc. I agree, it is a only a movie and it has mistakes like all, but is the most acurate I have seen till now (and more realistic battles...)

you can see a detail here:



Most of the items of this movie are based in original ones, but in the case of the brooches I really don't know

[hoplite14gr]

The left one corresponds to the description of the "Tables of Heraklea".
The decoration is called "thrinax" (ancient Greek for letuce).
It might come from a book publiced in 1873

The right one has the cross of Dionysos siginfying an initiate in the Mysteries of Samothrake. The central solar symbol though has apeared -minus the cross- on an Apulian ceramic. So I thing it was an artist device rather that the original. Source of the solar symbol COOK 1914 symbol here
http://phoenixandturtle.net/excerptmill ... czfig9.jpg
Still under research though

Kind regards

Stefanos

[Kallimachos]

Thanks for the answer Javier.
And of course for the additional background information (as always )
Stefanos.

[ouragos]

I have only found 3 himation pins for 5th C bc, none of which are cast. Repro illustrations attached. Sorry about small illustrations, they are lifted from an advert on one of our websites.

[Servio Caro (Javier Sánc]

Could some one of these brooches be done? somebody knows how would it cost?

Thank you very much

[ouragos]

Could some one of these brooches be done? somebody knows how would it cost?

If you mean the ones I have illustrated, the person who makes them is Steve Wagstaff and the top two are £4.50 each, the bottom one £5

He is a Roman trader in the UK. There is no web or email contact but send me a 'pm' and I will give you the contact details if you want them.