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Is this a Greek or roman Blade? any ideas as to where in history such a knife/dagger would fall.
As you can see I'm just starting out on this journey :roll:
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There is a long discussion about the parazonium,
http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?t=8061
(Had to dig back a dozen pages to find it!) If it doesn't answer your questions, sing out!
Khaire,
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Matthew, thanks for the link. There is some interesting reading there. The general consensus seems to be "maybe'.
Robert the only pic I have seen is what was on the other discussion. That and an item made by Windlass Steelcraft. that was what prompted my question as it said Greek but on doing a search others said Roman officer.
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Bear in mind that an officer might prefer to wear his gear 'Greek style', which I believe is the term for wearing your sword to the left.
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Ahh!
A Roman officer's dagger worn in the Greek style. Things are becoming clearer
I guess a lot in the re-pro market is left up to interpretation and what they think looks good.
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To make it worse, keep in minds that trade networks were extensive in the Mediterranean so those who lived in coastal areas might carry "exotic" or "non culture related" weapons and daggers or swords go more easliy than an axe or an exotic sword.
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Ah, Windlass, I was afraid of that. Yes, certainly we should discuss the questions and dig through the evidence, but I really advise staying far away from anything "Greek" or "Roman" made by Windlass Steelcrafts! They go to some effort to get everything wrong, and their catalog is riddled with hideously inaccurate statements (even for the items that they do relatively well!). Suffice it to say that they're "Greek Parazonium" bears no relation to any real weapon I've ever seen (with the possible exception of a Mycenaean bronze type G sword).
Sorry about that! Vale,
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I was wondering if they were a bit iffy. I had seen two different descriptions of the same item from Windlass.
I needed to be sure as I don't want to drop good money on something that will end up as a weed whacker. Finding good re-pros here is tough as there are not any re- enactor markets/fairs any place near me.
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Best example of ancient Greek dagger I came across.
From Corinth - late Geometric era
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Hmmm, are there not more daggers in the Archaological museum? I seem to recall some excellent examples.
Mind you the ones that stick out were the inlaid ones which were mycenean iirc :?
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The ones you refer to Byron are Bronze Age.
The example I post is Late Geometric -Early Archaic.
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Yes, the ones I clearly recall were of the earlier period, I was just wondering if there were more ofthe later period there.
Also the War Museum? I wasn't allowed to take pictures there, and all my photos from the Archao museum are on old fashioned film, so it is a while since I have looked to see what I saw.... :roll: old age creeping in.
I may have to return again.....
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