Interesting concentric-circle-Cingulum-plates-attachement

[Tarbicus]

What I definitely can say is that IT IS a belt plate!

It has been found with several more identical plates "in-situ".

Where and when?

[Aurelianus]

I don't have the-information-cart here right now neither the administration-program. I will look up comming weekend. But if I remember right it has been about five years ago in Germany.

[Tarbicus]

I don't have the-information-cart here right now neither the administration-program. I will look up comming weekend. But if I remember right it has been about five years ago in Germany.

It would be interesting to see the details, thanks.

[marcii ulpi messala]

I take advantage of this post to do a consultation on the plates of the strap.
I have understood that the rectangular plates decorated in three or two bodies, they are previous in the time to the square plates. Is it true this?

[Crispvs]

Gabriel,

Do you mean this kind of plate?


Reproduction by Lonely Mountain Forge(?)

If so it is probably contemporary. Both type 'A' plates and type 'B' plates (the ones with a central motif such as the one posted at the top of this thread) existed at the same time.

Crispvs

[Robert Vermaat]

Reproduction by Lonely Mountain Forge(?)

No this one is from Ray Moseley (aka 'Raymund the Quiet').

[Magnus]

Hey guys, have any belt plates been found like these? Was this double ring pattern feasible do you think?

[Peroni]

Yes,
plenty!

[Magnus]

Sweet!!!! Got any pics Adrian? lol

[Crispvs]

"No this one is from Ray Moseley (aka 'Raymund the Quiet')."

Thanks Valerius. I forgot to label the image properly in my album.

Crispvs

[JEFF]

Hi,Ive attached some photos of a belt set from my fathers collection
The plates use the split pin method of attachment
There are 18 plates in total all found together with a strap end but no buckle
2 of the plates have had pendants crudely attached at some stage,the strap end also seems to have been added later
Each plate measures 50mm x 55mm
The belt set was orignally owned by a German collector and was found in Romania in the early 1990s
A dealer from Holland purchased this collection and sold it to my father in 2004

Regards
Jeff

[Peroni]

These are very unusual plates for a military belt.

IMHO they could well be cavalry harness fittings. Especially with the attached pendants hanging from the plates.

[Caratacus]

Split pins seem to have been the common method to attach handles to chests etc.

Split pin fastenings were also used on armour. On some types of mail armour they were used to close the two decorative chest chest plates (as seen on those from the Straubing hoard). They also figure on the Newstead version of lorica segmentata, where they were used to secure the girdle plates together by being dropped through a cast ring (this arrangement apparently replaced the former hook/tie system).

Convergent evolution - same problem, same solution!

Caratacus (Mike Thomas)