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Hi Giannis!

May I ask how the "Xiphos-project" is going?
Virilis / Jyrki Halme
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Unfortunately not well. DSC have broken their collaboration with their swords smith and so they don't make swords. Al Hamdtt trading post didn't come back to me with any progress on the sword either,so it seems they don't consider it a competitive investment. Perhaps if many re-enactors contacted them asking if they make any greek swords?
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Giannis K. Hoplite
a.k.a.:Giannis Kadoglou
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Quote:Unfortunately not well. DSC have broken their collaboration with their swords smith and so they don't make swords. Al Hamdtt trading post didn't come back to me with any progress on the sword either,so it seems they don't consider it a competitive investment. Perhaps if many re-enactors contacted them asking if they make any greek swords?
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That`s really disappointing Cry ...
Virilis / Jyrki Halme
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Quote:Nicely done.

BUT.....assuming you strive for realism:

When a ship shears another ships oars there is total chaos under the deck. Oarsmen covered in blood and impaled by wooden stikcs from brocken oars.
Wooden debris flies around (lots of wooden spikes)
Epivatae = hoplites an archers are kneeling. If the attacked ship's Epivatae are found standing near the shearing the end up in the water.
Some even falling on the other side's oars and braking their bones.

No reason for the trierarch not to wear armor.

Thanks for enduring my criticism

Kind regards

Thanks for the interesting feedback! I'll certainly keep all that in mind next time I make a naval scene (it might be a while though, this was a real PITA). My idea for this image was that the two ships have come to rest alongside each other. It is possible that the closest ship has sheared the oars of the blue ship, and the further row of oarsmen are leaning forward as much as possible in order to flatten their oars against the hull. At this point, with the ships lying more or less still side by side, the crews are engaging in melee. This scene was based on Thucydides' description of the battle of Sybota, which resembled a land battle more than a classic naval engagement. However, your post has inspired me to perhaps make another painting depicting what you are describing sometime in the future.

Here is a sketch of my next idea, and I'd like to run it by you guys. It represents some hoplites, perhaps Athenians trekking through the forests of Aetolia under Demosthenes in 426. Has anyone been there? What is the terrain there like? I figured deciduous trees and ferns, is that correct?

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Aetolia

http://www.off-road.gr/uploads/files/su ... 010606.jpg
(probably more schrubs)

http://www.x-hellenica.gr/Images_PressC ... radise.jpg
http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/ ??????:ThermoAitolias.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_61QV8NSdEOk/S ... 810715.jpg

Hope it helps!

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Many thanks!
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This is a very nice and convincing model of how a trireme would have been in real military action. You can see how the deck and sides of the ships were covered by leather tents and how the helmsman was protected. It is possible that early triremes didn't have a deck to cover the oarsmen and where the epibatae would have fought. Later there were decks over the two teams of rowers on both sides and probably the hellenistic ships had a full deck.
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Early triremes were probably "deckless"
Masts and sails were stored in an engagement.
There was an attempt to extent the canvas to cover the full complement of rowers
Full deck triremes were probaly were used by Cimon.

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Fantastic. That really captures some agression and toughness 8) I am interested in how they resolved the plumes with the pilos helmet shape and this image seems quite possible. I'd like to see how he would handle the transverse crest as well. Does he do work for Osprey? He should do Big Grin I do still have my reservations about the use of the colour white on any Spartan's linothorax, however, but only a small (and arguable) quibble.
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This was painted for me by my friend Karl Kopinski. It is used as the cover for my plastic hoplite set.


This is impressive..Don't like the grip,shields, armor,chitons and some of the coloring...most are too skinny as well..But nonetheless impressive artwork and a unique capture..Dust is a nice touch, I applaud the author.
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I had recently started sculpting 1/9 scale bust of Seleukos Nikator. What do you think about it?
I am especially interested if armour is not too thick. Also if shoulder pads shouldn't be more tight fitting.

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Maciej Pomianowski
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Good work! But the armour should be about 1/5 of the thickness you have. Shoulder pieces should be tighter,and also narrower.
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Giannis
Giannis K. Hoplite
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Great artwork Smile
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Update:
I added panther skin cloak, helmet, baldric and started detailing the armour.
Shoulder pads are new, much thinner than before.

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Maciej Pomianowski
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Nice Work!!!Confusedhock:
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