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Help With Statue
#1
Hi I am trying to find a some larger images of this statue and a date if possible. [Image: amelia-germanico_statue2.jpg]
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#2
Something odd about that statue! :?
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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#3
I found some more information but no larger photos....

Quote:In August 1963, during excavation work for the construction of a mill, a large number of fragments from a bronze statue were discovered. The excellent quality of the portrait made it possible to identify it as a statue of Germanicus. The particular circumstances of the discovery and the damage caused by the excavating machine, which scattered a large number of bronze fragments, made it extremely difficult to study and interpret the history of the work. The long and very delicate job of recomposing and assembling the statue succeeded nonetheless in restoring the monument’s striking visual impact.
The statue is currently on loan at the Archeological Museum of Amelia (Terni).
The weight of the figure is on the right leg, with the left leg slightly bent at the knee. He wears leather sandals, held by strips wound around his ankles and tied in a knot, with the ends hanging down on his feet. He is clad in a sleeved tunic of light linen, visible at the shoulders and upper arms and covering the legs with vertical folds; above the tunic is an anatomic-style cuirass with shoulder pieces, decorated in relief on both the breast and the back. Below the line marking the anatomical bottom of the cuirass there is a double series of pteryges; the upper ones are rounded and decorated with alternating lion heads and satyr heads in relief, while the lower ones are elongated, partially overlapping and decorated with palmettes done in damascene. The head of the figure is turned slightly to the right, in the direction of the right arm raised in an adlocutio gesture. The left arm is bent at the elbow, with the left hand holding a lance and the folds of a cloak, which falls from the shoulder over the forearm.

A sheathed sword hangs from a baldric on the left, under the figure’s arm. The beautiful, ornate, symbolic decoration on the cuirass is particularly worthy of note. The back, which unfortunately is quite ruined, shows two female figures in short dress flanking a candelabrum.

The decoration on the front of the curaiss is superb. Portrayed in relief under the neck is Scylla, her right arm raised in the act of hurling a boulder; her bust rises between dog protomas girding her hips, while one of the coils reaches toward the right shoulder; below, waves are rendered in damascene. The central scene is flanked by two winged victories flying toward the center, and decorated below by plant motifs. At the center is the scene of Achilles’ ambush of Troilus. Achilles is naked and depicted frontally, with his head covered by a crested Attic helmet and turned toward the left. He holds a round shield with his left hand, while his chlamys (short mantle) hangs from his shoulder, visible in part in front of the shield and in part in the background. With his right hand he seizes the young Troilus by the hair, in the attempt to pull him from his horse. Troilus, also nude, except for his high sandals and a chlamys clasped around his neck and spread against the background, straddles his steed, which rears up on its hind legs. Troilus raises his arms in vain, trying to free himself from Achilles’ powerful grip.
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#4
Oh and here is another view....I just found...[Image: MintEmp1.jpg]
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#5
Quote:Something odd about that statue! :?

Yup, I recognize it. Germanicus. What looks strange is that he's wearing only 2 sets of 'tongue' pteruges and not any regular ones.


~Theo
Jaime
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#6
Are you working on making a Tribune impression, Sulla ?

~Theo
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#7
The statue does look odd, but it also seems to have suffered some bad damage in its time. If you imagine the pteryges as separate, and lost, the statue looks normal again - meaning the missing pteryges leave a large gap between the small scalloped ones and the tunic.
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#8
There are no missing pteruges, actually. There are other examples of this same style but they seem to be rare.


~Theo
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#9
Yes, after looking again when sulla posted his essay, I realized it was damage! At first I thought they had put parts of several statues to make one together!

thanks for pointing these things out to me people, and sorry to butt in,(again)
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
Titus Flavius Germanus
Batavian Coh I
Byron Angel
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#10
I've made many a model kit in my time, and that there statue's missing its pteryges.

No proof.
TARBICvS/Jim Bowers
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#11
Quote:What looks strange is that he's wearing only 2 sets of 'tongue' pteruges and not any regular ones.
They are pretty common this way. I have images of probobly 5 or 6 total that look almost exactly like this.

And thats one reason I wanted to get better images of this one. Since its made out of metal it has finer detail than the stone statues. I have found some better images and will post them in a minute but still want moreSmile

Quote:Are you working on making a Tribune impression, Sulla ?
Well I am working on a musculata that will end up being used for illustrations for many things. But based on statues. And you never know I might show up to some event some day in itSmile

Quote:The statue does look odd, but it also seems to have suffered some bad damage in its time. If you imagine the pteryges as separate, and lost, the statue looks normal again - meaning the missing pteryges leave a large gap between the small scalloped ones and the tunic.
As referenced above it war very badly torn up and then they had to put it back together so it does have some gaps etc.

Quote:There are no missing pteruges, actually. There are other examples of this same style but they seem to be rare.
Exactly right going by all the samples I have seen they are the exception.
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#12
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#13
Mmmmm.....it just looks like the top of the second row of tongue pteruges to me. Or am I missing something ?

Here are other examples showing the same pattern of pteruges :

Hellenistic example

Mars

Marcus Aurelius


~Theo
Jaime
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#14
One thing I wanted to see if the pteruges were hinged and they look like they are ....[Image: Amelia_Germanicus_05.jpg]

More photos...

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Patrick Lawrence

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#15
Yup, you're right.
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