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Hi all,
I need the text of a prayer to Jupiter (In Latin, of course  ). A not very long one and related to the military would be perfect. Otherwise, a 'neutral' one will suffice. 8)
Many thanks in advance! 
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For now, this is a sacred, magic (and terrible, I'd say...) Devotio prayer said by the roman Commander of the Army when a battle was turning into a defeat to ask Gods for victory. Not only to Iuppiter though...
Iane, Iuppiter, Mars pater, Quirine, Bellona, Lares, diui Nouensiles, di Indigetes, diui quorum est potestas nos rorum hostiumque, dique manes, uos precor, ueneror, ueniam peto feroque, uti populo Romano Quiritium uim uictoriam prosperetis hostesque populi Romani Quiritium terrore formidine morteque adficiatis. Sicut uerbis nuncupaui, ita pro Re Publica Populi Romani Quiritium, exercitu, legionibus, auxiliis populi Romani Quiritium, legiones auxiliaque hostium mecum deis Manibus Tellurique deuoueo.
Liuius, Ab urbe condita, VIII,9, 6-8
I'll search better next...
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... Tu modo nascenti puero, quo ferrea primum
desinet ac toto surget Gens Aurea mundo,
casta faue Lucina; tuus iam regnat Apollo ...
Vergilius, Bucolicae, ecloga IV, 4-10
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Salue,
that's my favorite, by Romulus himself to Iuppiter O.M. while having a bad time fighting Sabines:
"Iuppiter, tuis iussus avibus hic in Palatio prima urbi fundamenta ieci. Arcem iam scelere emptam Sabini habent; inde huc armati superata media valle tendunt; at tu, pater deum hominumque, hinc saltem arce hostes, deme terrorem Romanis fugamque foedam siste! Hic ego tibi templum Statori Iovi, quod monumentum sit posteris tua praesenti ope servatam urbem esse, voveo."
(Liv. I.12)
(in bold what I would consider a nice excerpt).
After this prayer, Romulus turned to his soldiers crying "Iuppiter Optimus Maximus resistere atque iterare pugnam iubet" (it seems it worked quite well).
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This is really fine, from aT. Cl. Nero's post on the italian forum (CONTUBERNIUM), sources Payne, R. " The Roman Triumph", PAN, 1962 and Plautus' Persa:
The TRIUMPHATOR, chief of a victorious roman Army after a Victory:
Hostibus uictis, ciuibus saluis, re placida, pacibus perfectis, bello exstincto, re bene gesta, integro exercito et praesidiis, cum bene nos, Iuppiter, iuuisti, dique alii omnes caelipotentes, eas uobis habeo grates atque ago, quia probe sum ultus meum inimicum
Plus:
...flamen Dialis inauguratus est Cn. Cornelius. eodem anno tabula in aede matris Matutae cum indice hoc posita est: "Ti. Semproni Gracchi consulis imperio auspicioque legio exercitusque populi Romani Sardiniam subegit. in ea prouincia hostium caesa aut capta supra octoginta milia. Re publica felicissume gesta atque liberatis sociis, uectigalibus restitutis, exercitum saluom atque incolumem plenissimum praeda domum reportauit; iterum triumphans in urbem Romam redit. Cuius rei ergo hanc tabulam donum Ioui dedit. Iniae insulae forma erat, atque in ea simulacra pugnarum picta.
[Livio, XLI, 28]
Vale,
TITVS/Daniele Sabatini
... Tu modo nascenti puero, quo ferrea primum
desinet ac toto surget Gens Aurea mundo,
casta faue Lucina; tuus iam regnat Apollo ...
Vergilius, Bucolicae, ecloga IV, 4-10
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Hey Carlo, I've quoted in the same moment you did, your post in Contubernium!
Vale,
TITVS/Daniele Sabatini
... Tu modo nascenti puero, quo ferrea primum
desinet ac toto surget Gens Aurea mundo,
casta faue Lucina; tuus iam regnat Apollo ...
Vergilius, Bucolicae, ecloga IV, 4-10
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D
Plautus puts these words in the mouth of a drunk slave, in a totally different context then, but some historians (among which the one mentioned by Daniele) think that this might be the actual prayer of a triumphator to I.O.M. (which we do not know from other sources)
We haven't a final proof, though.
Still, it is very similar to an inscription in Mater Matuta temple in Rome, mentioned by Titus Livius, relating to Ti. Sempronius Gracchus' conquest of Sardinia, which is the second quote in Daniele's post.
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Many thanks, Daniele and Carlo!
It would be more appropriate if the prayer wouldn't be related to battle circumstances, though... :?
I was thinking of the sacrifice the unit's praepositus would make under normal circumstances, like that protraited on the Dura wall painting.
In the meantime, I like the short prayer quoted from Plautus
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Quote:It would be more appropriate if the prayer wouldn't be related to battle circumstances, though... :?
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Received, thanks Robert!
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