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Arabs Vs Assyrian Illustration
#1
Hello
Here is one of my latest illustrations.
http://community.imaginefx.com/fxpose/j ... 30728.aspx
I know they are not allies or Enemies of Rome but...
Hope you all enjoy it.
All commentaries are welcome.
Cheers
JP Vieira
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#2
Great painting!
Robert Vermaat
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#3
An Assyrian and Arabs! Nice work...
Dan Diffendale
Ph.D. candidate, University of Michigan
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#4
Beautiful! How long did that take you?
Dave Bell/Secvndvs

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#5
Hello
Thanks to all for your commentaries. Big Grin
Dave, as for the time spent on the illustration I am afraid I cannot say: I usually have 2 to 3 illustrations that I paint at the same time...
But that is something I must do: to evaluate how long I take to paint an illustration.
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#6
Very nice.
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#7
Hello
Thanks for the replies. Big Grin
There is evidence of early Arabs fighting this way in Assyrian bas-reliefs.
Are there any other sources for the early Arabs armies (and their composition)?
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JP Vieira
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#8
Some information about early arabs it is provided in Armies of the Macedonian and Punic Wars figures 58 & 59 and
Monvert Achaemenid Persian Army pages 52 & 53.
Andrei Sandu
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#9
Hello
Thanks Gie for the information.
Besides the sculptural Assyrian evidence (for the appearance of early Arab armies) are there any other sources for these armies?
Best regards
JP Vieira
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#10
Why do they have no body garment? Doesn't seem 100% accurate, though the artwork is well done
Cheers,

Imperator and Proconsul Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus
Roman Emperor Nero

Andrew Kennedy III
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#11
Hello
The illustration is based on a number of Assyrian bas-reliefs that depict fighting against early Arabs.
On those bas-reliefs the Arabs are depicted like this.
I can concede that the Assyrian artist depict the Arabs as simpler as possible to transmit the idea of the “superiorityâ€
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#12
Fair enough, It would be more logical for the Assyrian artist to depict it in such a way.

Your painting skills are great though Big Grin
Cheers,

Imperator and Proconsul Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus
Roman Emperor Nero

Andrew Kennedy III
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#13
Hello Andrew
Many thanks on your comments.
Please, be sure to get issue 1 of "ancient Warfare" magazine: it depicts 2 illustrations from me on the Ruben Post's article 'Alexandrian Stelae and the Ptolemaic army of the 3rd C BC'.
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#14
Thanks for the painting, nice indeed!

Quote:Besides the sculptural Assyrian evidence (for the appearance of early Arab armies) are there any other sources for these armies?
JP Vieira

Ammianus Marcellinus has this comment on Arabs (XIV 4,3).

apud has gentes [sc. Arabes], quarum exordiens initium ab Assyriis ad Nili cataractas porrigitur et confinia Blemmyarum, omnes pari sorte sunt bellatores seminudi coloratis sagulis pube tenus amicti --

Among those tribes whose original abode extends from the Assyrians to the cataracts of the Nile and the frontiers of the Blemmyae all alike are warriors of equal rank, half-nude, clad in dyed cloaks as far as the loins --
Translation by J. C. Rolfe (Loeb series)

When I find something else I'll post you. Btw. you should check R. G. Hoyland's Arabia and the Arabs: From the Bronze Age to the Coming of Islam. I just ordered my copy few days ago Smile

T. Lankila
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Fennis mira feritas, foeda paupertas: non arma, non equi, non penates; victui herba, vestitui pelles, cubile humus: solae in sagittis spes, quas inopia ferri ossibus asperant.
Tacitus, Germania 46
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#15
Hi
Thanks Lankila for your help.
I am planning some illustrations about armies seldom represented in historical illustration: early Arabs are among those.
Many thanks
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