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Sword Making Tutorial Make Your Own Gladius
#31
Rick,

You may have that in your mind, as to how the tutorial is being written, but I didn't actually see it in your explanation, and I have seen way too many new reenactors go out and invest time and money in their kit and then feel foolish because it was not well researched.

But maybe I missed it somewhere, I'll have to go back and reread everything again.
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#32
OK Rick - looking forward to the guide. I am sure the techniques could be adapted to most sword types as you say.
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#33
I agree that having a wholistic knowledge of a thing is the core of understanding and bringing forth it's full richness ,appreciation and exactness. And I do suggest that all who have an interest in this subject do just that. That is not however the purpose of this thread

What you are suggesting is something akin to making it mandatory to know all about the history of sushi in order to make it an eat it.

I ask you please what should we be researching here? we are taking a known and accepted pattern and duplicating it in steel. It is a hands on project. That is the ONLY purpose of this all. To gain the ability to work steel into a sword.

Thanks again

Vale

Rick
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#34
If I may, on the research question.
This step is best done before you even buy a piece of steel ( if you don't know what your trying to copy you won't know what to buy anyway Big Grin ).

Then, the tutorial to turn the materials into the sword you've researched.

My personal method is to if at all possable, print pictures of the original article I'm trying to fabricate and, put them above my workbench.
This helps me with small details that may slip my mind (happens more every year) .

Of course, depending on the sword that is chosen a little guess work may have to be employed( fifth century C.E. :evil: ) but, for the most part enough information is available to make an accurate looking sword that, one would almost have to go out of there way to make a farby sword.

So, if your going to spend the time making a sword spend an hour (first century C.E.) or a year ( fifth century C.E.) to learn as much as you can about the original of the item. If you don't, you can only blame yourself.
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#35
Quote:I agree that having a wholistic knowledge of a thing is the core of understanding and bringing forth it's full richness ,appreciation and exactness. And I do suggest that all who have an interest in this subject do just that. That is not however the purpose of this thread

What you are suggesting is something akin to making it mandatory to know all about the history of sushi in order to make it an eat it.

I ask you please what should we be researching here? we are taking a known and accepted pattern and duplicating it in steel. It is a hands on project. That is the ONLY purpose of this all. To gain the ability to work steel into a sword.

Thanks again

Vale

Rick

Then the thread should be 'blade making' not 'gladius making'. If you define it specifically, then pattern is an important first step.

Indeed there are clearly accurate patterns for every type of gladius, but they're not the only ones out there- there are just as many that are only 'versions' that have fundamental flaws and if one isn't careful, as Caius said, one might end up wasting a huge amount of time making a blade that's incorrect...
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#36
G'day Gentlemen,
ALL of your points are well taken however if I might ask what's wrong/incorrect with these swords and the patterns for the four blades as illustrated here?? I would very much appreciate any comments.

Again I thank you for your input and advice.

Cheers


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#37
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q315 ... 005117.jpg

Here are my two Albion Mainz's, for what it's worth!
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#38
Hail Gaius Julius Caeser!

Thanks for the donation.

Nothin like help right from the top head numero uno!

Big Grin

Rick
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#39
I would actually be very gratefull for any and all as accepted historically correct Mainz pattern gladius pics etc.

Thank you

Rick
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#40
Here are a few originals... if it helps at all...

[Image: mainzgladiusmilit-gladius.jpg]

Link:
[url:12bqurie]http://www.romancoins.info/London%20(19).JPG[/url]

and several original pieces here (HUGE photos):
[url:12bqurie]http://www.romancoins.info/MilitaryEquipment-Attack.html[/url]
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#41
Hi Anthony good to see you again. Thank you so much for the pics. To be perfectly honest I have an entire huge file on Roman swords have been actually researching them for quite a while so I do already have these pics. I have my own reason for asking however.

Thank you sir and you take care Anthony!

Rick
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#42
And so what's wrong with this sword???
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#43
It's too pretty--you'll have to send it to me to....even out the fortune....



:wink:
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#44
The brass plate should be embedded in the guard, not exposed?
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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#45
Thanks for that Byron. So there is a certain percentage of coleus concerning the shown sword?

Many thanks Sir.

Rick
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