Linothorax design/construction

[Paullus Scipio]

Paullus wrote:
In all the works of Xenophon,he never, not even once, refers to Greeks wearing linen corselets - only Asiatics. Does that not strike anyone else as odd ?
The only time Greek authors describe scale armour is when barbarians wear it. But we know they used it from art and archaeological finds. Without those finds (and without any sculptures with a scale pattern carved on them), I could use your logic to 'prove' that the Greeks never used scale armour and merely liked painting scale patterns on other objects.

...uuu..mmm.. what 'logic'? Nothing is argued here, merely an observation made.

Right now we don't know what any people called armour with this cut, or what it was made from. I call it 'linothorax' because tube-and-yoke cuirass doesn't feel like a good description .....The 'linothorax' cut was used for every type of armour possible (plate, mail, scale, organic materials, combinations of the above).

......as you have just said...a very good reason for not calling armour of this type 'linothorax'.
Calling it that is merely perpetuating an obvious error !! Worse still, use of the term colours any discussion, and so should not be used for that reason alone......

If a scale armour with this cut would have been called a spolas, then you have admitted that spolades could be made from materials other than hide.

A garment of leather ( or linen!) re-inforced with some other material, would still be called by its original name e.g. spolades or thorakes lineoi

See the "Leather Cuirass?" thread for examples

That's it ?
There are no other types of armour depicted unequivcally in the items on that thread. If that's your best argument, then it is no argument at all. :o

I don't think you are open to persuasion

...so it is I who must be "persuaded", is it ? D lol: Why ? Because I have suggested a heresy ? Why not you? If at times I have seemed ardent in defending my views, it is because I have had to defend them against many ! People now think (wrongly) that I believe all Hoplite armour was leather, which I don't necessarily, but I was put into a defensive position.
I began by believing from secondary sources in a 'linen tube-and-yoke' corselet being worn by classical greek hoplites, but examination of Xenophon and then other sources has led me to doubt that assumption. It turns out that there is little or no convincing evidence of such a thing, and much, such as Xenophon to suggest there may not. And to suggest that a fragment of a poet,(it could have been a poem about the Trojan war, for all anyone knows !) who can apparently see into the future is as good evidence as a whole body of work from a general who was there....... well, that is simply not credible. As I have said before, evidence should be weighed not just counted.
In any event, as I have repeatedly said, I am self-evidently open to "persuasion", I just need some credible evidence.........