09-12-2007, 10:53 PM
Sorry, you misunderstood, so I should clarify. I meant that Xenophon speaks of a neck guard like a bevor "...And, since the neck is one of the vital parts, we hold that a covering should be available for it also, standing up from the breastplate itself and shaped to the neck ( in other words, a separate piece of armour) For this will serve as an ornament, and at the same time, if properly made, will cover the rider's face, when he pleases, as high as the nose.For the helmet we consider the Boeotian pattern the most satisfactory...."
Xenophon, then, is speaking of a separate neck guard, which covers the throat,and which may, "when he pleases" extend as high as the nose. I meant that the Derveni grave 'B' neckguard was of the type Xenophon descibes, although in this instance it doesn't extend up to the nose.
Xenophon, then, is speaking of a separate neck guard, which covers the throat,and which may, "when he pleases" extend as high as the nose. I meant that the Derveni grave 'B' neckguard was of the type Xenophon descibes, although in this instance it doesn't extend up to the nose.
Quote:Odd that there are no images of this, unless it is like De Saxe's work and what he recommends is so idealized that it will not be found in service in any numbers.Xenophon is writing about what he 'recommends' - hence somewhat idealised. But that at least some followed his advice is shown by the existence of such neck-guards, like the Makedonian example.
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