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Phallangite pelta purchase
#1
Does anyone know what vendors sells these if any?
shield sarissophoron
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#2
Looks like fibreglass to me. I've got more respect for the material since I saw the ones Athenea Promakhos have, but I think that they always look wrong if you paint them to look like metal.

Do you have T K Maxx in Greece? They sometimes stock bowls made of what looks like strips of bamboo. Not authentic, but cheap and just the right size for a pelte. Cover with leather, paint and it'll look the business.
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#3
I have a friend that works in the Satellite antenna business and he can find for me 50-60 cm plates that fit right in the size and depth of the phallangite pelta.But still the embossed part with the carvings i cant see to imagine how we will make it unless we just
1)metallize it to look bronze but no emboss carvings

2)paint over them but i dont think they were painted as Asclepiodotus and any other sources i have seen say.So they were not painted over.

We will do no.1 case as close to Asclepodotus as possible.
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#4
Varioys spayw of metallic paint used by scale modellers are very authentic looking. Yo ucan also try airbrush with for the finishing touches.
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#5
The thing is that without the carvings it will be too plain.It will be like an iphicratian pelta i saw in reproduction but not painted.There is no evidence of painted peltas of this type is there?
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#6
Wait, you do not need carvings to represent Macedonian emblems.
Most of th eshileds with carvings can be asociated with officers.
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#7
You are saying that most of the peltas of the sarissiphoroi were painted like
the hoplite shields of the hyspaspists?
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#8
Exactly. painting can be cheaper than embossing.
There are also grave painting eaxmaples of painted shileds.
In all probability the state was equiping the infantry so economy is an option.
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#9
Like this one? Do you have any other ones?
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#10
The ones above are hoplite shields and the one below is embossed!
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#11
Do you have a bigger one of the second pic?It looks great!
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Paul wrote..
Quote:Do you have T K Maxx in Greece? They sometimes stock bowls made of what looks like strips of bamboo. Not authentic, but cheap and just the right size for a pelte. Cover with leather, paint and it'll look the business.

They sell them in Laura Ashley too. (Got dragged into one by the missus :roll: )
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#13
We dont have maxx or laura! :o
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Confusedhock: Where did I post that :!: :?:
Thanks Gioi
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#15
Quote:2)paint over them but i dont think they were painted as Asclepiodotus and any other sources i have seen say.So they were not painted over.

We will do no.1 case as close to Asclepodotus as possible.

Asclepiodotus makes no commentary on the appearance or colours of equipment, and so, the absence of commentary on painting shields is meaningless. If he were describing the colours and the appearance of other pieces of equipment but omitted any mention of painted shields, then his omission would be worth considering.

As you can see from the Aghios Athanasios paintings posted in this thread, Macedonian embossed shields were painted different colours.

Also, I don't know which of the two paintings Giannis' was referring to when he wrote, "I think it is Alexander and Roxana and in the left,Aristotle," but in any case, his caption is incorrect. The first painting is thought to show Antigonus Gonatas and a female relative and it is part of a long fresco; this particular scene is only one of a few metopes in the fresco, and the old man is not thought to be Aristotle. The second is a painting of Ajax in the house of Menander, and also shows a hoplite shield and not a phalangite shield.
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