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Calling all armchair generals! Boudica's Last Stand.
I am not sure if this link has been posted here before, sorry if it has been.

http://bandaarcgeophysics.co.uk/arch_intro.html
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(03-11-2010, 11:16 AM)mcbishop Wrote: Discuss ;-) )

My theory is the battle was nowhere near Watling St with the two legions of Paulinus but on, or close to either Akeman St or Fosse Way down south. Why you may ask? Because Boudica would not make the same mistake as Caratacus by being betrayed by people like Queen Cartimandua. She did not need to go to hunting for the Romans after the sacking of St Albans, she needed a strategic plan. One legion in Exeter and two in Anglesey. She knocked out the Hispana IX and had a better chance of destroying the solitary Augusta II because of the time difference between her army getting to them before Valeria and Gemina could relieve them. It's a game of chess. Either way Boudica's army would want and taste blood. BTW I stumbled across this forum because I was looking at the analytics on my website, http://www.boudicabattlefield.com and there were links to here Smile
Having just listened to In Our Time on Boudica (see the thread here), it occurred to me that there may be some mileage in debating the old chestnut, Where Was Boudica's Last Stand? The programme duly unfurled the usual 'somewhere in the West Midlands' line (Mancetter being a favourite), but I would be interested to know what the resident RAT Armchair Generals think about this, given that Tacitus is so sparing with geographical information.
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(06-19-2017, 07:35 PM)Windmill Wrote: the battle was nowhere near Watling St with the two legions of Paulinus but on, or close to either Akeman St or Fosse Way down south.

Hi Windmill

A couple of us have suggested sites on Akeman - although much closer to St Albans, around Tring.

But if Boudica and co wanted to head west and fight II Augusta, why would they not take the Portway due west from London? That would be the quicker route.


(06-19-2017, 07:35 PM)Windmill Wrote: She did not need to go to hunting for the Romans

I'm not keen on the idea of the Britons heading off for a showdown with the Roman either - or at least, not over any great distance.

But if they were going west to fight II Augusta, surely 'hunting the Romans' is exactly what they were doing?



(06-19-2017, 07:35 PM)Windmill Wrote: One legion in Exeter and two in Anglesey.

We don't, I think, have any very clear idea where the various legions were based at this point - except that IX was presumably somewhere around Longthorpe and the main force of XIV at least (probably XX as well?) was with Paulinus.

Michael (Renatus) has a theory - somewhere in the trackless wastes of this thread - that it was only a veterans detachment of II Augusta left in the west to guard the fortress while the rest of the legion were away with Paulinus. That would explain why they were commanded by the praefectus castrorum.

The two other legions - XIV and XX - would also have veterans detachments at their forts (possibly around Gloucester, Alchester and/or Usk), and Paulinus sent out a call to all of them to join him for the battle. The XIV and XX detachments managed it, while II did not.



(06-19-2017, 07:35 PM)Windmill Wrote: her army getting to them before Valeria and Gemina could relieve them.

One problem with this strategy might be that the Britons would know that Paulinus and his expeditionary force were heading south to fight them (and were probably already in the vicinity of London). If they went off into the west looking for II Augusta, they would be leaving a mobile and hostile force in their rear, cutting off their line of retreat and their route home.

If the Britons wanted a victory, surely they'd be better off fighting Paulinus and his main force, rather than trekking off for many days westward to face a smaller enemy?
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(06-20-2017, 12:40 PM)Nathan Ross Wrote: Michael (Renatus) has a theory - somewhere in the trackless wastes of this thread - that it was only a veterans detachment of II Augusta left in the west to guard the fortress while the rest of the legion were away with Paulinus. That would explain why they were commanded by the praefectus castrorum.

This is the post in which I first advanced this theory:

http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/thread-...#pid286343
Michael King Macdona

And do as adversaries do in law, -
Strive mightily, but eat and drink as friends.
(The Taming of the Shrew: Act 1, Scene 2)
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sad to discover we lost Barry Horne of the Dunstable theory;
http://www.dunstabletoday.co.uk/news/cam...-1-8055346

Page 89;
http://www.archaeologyuk.org/cbasm/index...202014.pdf

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(08-11-2017, 08:25 PM)John1 Wrote: we lost Barry Horne

Oh dear, that's sad news!

I had a brief correspondence with Mr Horne back in 2013, during which we discovered that we had independently arrived at almost exactly the same proposed site for the battle. He did mention at the time that he had an illness that prevented him travelling, but I never heard any more about it.

Thanks for letting us know, John.
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