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Late Roman Unit Sizes
(04-26-2018, 03:53 PM)Nathan Ross Wrote: But might a figure of 340-400 men be about right, and if so how did Coello work it out?

It's probably been mentioned somewhere above in the epic thread, but isn't Coello drawing on Zuckerman's interesting note about the strength of Legio V Macedonica in AD 399?

http://tyche-journal.at/tyche/index.php/...ew/177/286
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(04-27-2018, 06:38 PM)Ross Cowan Wrote: isn't Coello drawing on Zuckerman's interesting note[url=http://tyche-journal.at/tyche/index.php/tyche/article/view/177/286][/url]

Aha! Yes, now I check I see that Coello does reference Zuckerman's paper, but only as regards the point he makes in the previous sentence (about Duncan-Jones and his estimates), which leaves the connection to the V Mac document unclear...

Thanks for the link - fascinating stuff, and it neatly answers my question about where Coello gets his figure of 340-400 from. I do wonder (assuming the note at the end about the possible daily ration is incorrect) that the numbers might be less that Zuckerman estimates; we know from other documents that V Mac had Augustales (a whole schola of them, whatever that means!), and therefore perhaps also Flaviales, both grades on 3-6 annonae each, who between them could eat up a good chunk of the rations. The actual number of troops in the numerus might well be less than 300.
Nathan Ross
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The number of troops *at this stationing* was about 300 yes, probably. But much like on the Danube, V Macedonica had small one or two century large detachments all over Egypt at Antinoupolis, Panopolis, etc. etc. So we have an estimate of the strength of its main stationing, but not the detachments along the rest of the Nile.
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(04-27-2018, 07:51 PM)Flavivs Aetivs Wrote: But much like on the Danube, V Macedonica had small one or two century large detachments all over Egypt at Antinoupolis, Panopolis, etc. etc.

Possibly. Although the ND scrupulously lists all the various stations of the other legions in Egypt and the Thebaid - all have multiple garrisons, just as do the legions on the Danube. But there is only one post listed for V Macedonia - Memphis. Are there papyri mentioning other stations of this legion, do you know?

This could just have been because the unit was so small - Zuckerman's suggestion that it was the descendant of the (single-cohort?) vexillation of the Danubian legion brough to Egypt by Galerius in c293 seems quite plausible. In that case, of course, it wouldn't tell us much about the size of the other legions in the province!
Nathan Ross
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