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Reenacting 9AD
#1
Inspired by the Klakriese 2009 event, I am making a 9 AD impression now. Coming from southern Germany I am trying to use mainly objects from this area, if I do not find something from Kalkriese, Haltern, Rheingönheim etc. that suits me. I am am making belt plates and strap ends from Kalkriese now, tunic is about to be finished. I plan to get a find-it-armoury chainmail. What is a slight problem for me: which weapons shall I get? pugio and gladius, that is. I plan to start with a cheaper but quite accurate version and to have the blades replaced by pattern-welded ones sooner or later. But for now: What can you recommend me?
Christian K.

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#2
For a pugio, probably the Titelberg could be a nice choose. It's no very hard to make and probably you can try to make yourself, or if you have some money get one of german makers. I like the Binsfelds ones.
http://www.binsfeld-replikate.de/pugio.htm

For the sword, you have many options. You can get a Deepeeka Mainz and make (custom,or yourself) a "opus interrasile" sheath, or even better try to make a sword following the silver scabbard frame fragments founded at Kalkriese. Another time, Binsfeld have yet make that sword: http://www.binsfeld-replikate.de/gladius.htm .

But, i think you don't have to use pattern-welded blades. I think there are not compatible with the augustean period.

What belt plates have you used? Pictures?
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#3
Thanks for the info!
Quote:But, i think you don't have to use pattern-welded blades. I think there are not compatible with the augustean period.
Avitianus, in the first century most blades are pattern-welded. The Auerberg pugiones, the Augsburg Oberhausen blades, the Kempten pugiones, the Kalkriese blades, just to name a few from the early first century. Unfortunately most publications simply don´t tell, but if you look at the originals you rarely find one, that is not pattern welded. In most cases it is unclear whether they actually were, this is mainly due to old conservation-methods, which make the pattern invisible. Also on X-ray many patterns are not visible, because they are too narrow to show up in the picture.

My belt plates are the rectangular undecorated ones, silver plated. Then I have narrow and wide "danglium" plates, and the for that time typical flat strap-ends with a box at the end. Wait to see them in my marketplace section after January 1st. Smile
The belt pieces so far are from Haltern, today I am making models for the attachments of the Kalkriese "danglium" strap. I make these in bronze (not brass), and they are on their outer side manually silver plated. I will also make bronze wire-fibulae ( late laTéne type ).
Christian K.

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Ut desint vires, tamen est laudanda voluntas.

LEGIO XIII GEMINA

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#4
I would also recommend the Mainz and Fulham pattern gladii from Len Morgan.

As for helmets, you will have a few to choose from!

The new Deepeeka Gallic A, and Coolus's C and D would be perfect for 9AD.

The French group Pax Romana depict Augustan period soldiers, have a look at their website, they have very nice equipment! :wink:
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#5
Quote:The new Deepeeka Gallic A, and Coolus's C and D would be perfect for 9AD.
The coolus C should be here any day now... Good ol´ RAT discount.. Smile
Christian K.

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Ut desint vires, tamen est laudanda voluntas.

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#6
You should have waited for the updated and corrected Coolus C :?

The old version is VERY innacurate! I'm not quite sure when it will be released though.

Pic here..
http://w10.eleven2.com/~joorthuy/rat/vi ... ba8#103127

here's the new D..
http://w10.eleven2.com/~joorthuy/rat/vi ... ba8#100676



Coolus E may be acceptable for this period too, but not the G. (the one just released by Deepeeka)
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#7
Thanks for the pattern-welded info, Tarquitius. When i spoke about that "incompatibility" i was thinking in sword blades. Are there make pattern-welded?

Are you going to do some stuff to sell? A good new!!! At January?

A little off-topic... Peroni, what it's the range time accepted for the coolus-G? It could be for a late-claudian or neronian impression?
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#8
Caius are the blades actually pattern welded, or are they just layered ?By this I mean are welds just built up, but not in a set pattern?

I have seen some analysis of gladi, and some are regular iron with no steel to them. So this could possibly leave a grain pattern in the metal when investigated also.
"...quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."


a.k.a. Paul M.
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#9
Quote:Peroni, what it's the range time accepted for the coolus-G? It could be for a late-claudian or neronian impression?

Generally thought to be second half of the first century Cesar. So yes Neronian/Flavian period.
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#10
Nah, I bought the G. The G! Big Grin
If it doesn´t fit in to 9 AD (which I thought, an I like the feather holder so much ), I gotta re-sell it... :roll:

Quote:sword blades. Are there make pattern-welded?
Yes, all I have inspected so far. Smile if the metal was not preserved with modern methods, you cannot see it, unless a section of the blade has been "carved" free. Sad
Christian K.

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#11
Quote:If it doesn´t fit in to 9 AD (which I thought, an I like the feather holder so much ), I gotta re-sell it...

You could always wait until there's an offer on the new C, D or E (which does have feather holders) You could perhaps trade with someone?
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#12
I saw pictures of a Gallic type helmet crest holder and a helmet handle from Kalkriese. What type of helmet would that have been from?

I have been toying with the idea of a Varian recinstruction since I first read about the disaster a couple of years ago! (I am quite recently renewing my interest in history), but will be a long term project for me.

Any thought on these items?

Regards
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#13
One of the early Gallic types such as an A, B or possibly a C. could have this fitting.

There are earlier types too. Look at the helmets from the Guttmann collection

http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/ ... Itemid,96/
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#14
Ave Adrian

Could not see any crest mounting of this type in the photos, except on the worms G, and possibly the windisch G :? ( Would the Gallic D possibly have had this type of crest? I was reading there were several fragments of various Imperial Gallic types found at the site, but there is little pictorial evidence that I have access to. Unless the museum website has new photos?
Osprey shows the centurian in a Gallic D, but justifies the image by the find of a segmentata plate, earlier than previously accepted, and the other helmet fragments............ :? ? (if this is a realistic possibility!)

Regards and hope to hear from all.....
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
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#15
would a montefortino not also be very likely?

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