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late roman hat, Pileus - Chuck Russell - 09-08-2007

well, how did i do. its a tad on the tall side but i kinda like it. i took the picture infront of a small mirror so the back could be seen. sorry about the lighting. thought the one picture maks me look like a russian hit man Wink comments?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1250/134 ... 4bb1_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1278/134 ... 0592_o.jpg

Re: late roman hat, Pileus - Virilis - 09-08-2007

Chuck, you must have attached wrong pics here, they clearly show Rasputin after some vodka :wink: !

Seriously, I think too that the late roman hat would have been a bit deeper than in the surviving sculptures/ coins. Maybe the ruling class did wear a more fashionable shallower model but the troops must have used a deeper and more practical / warm one...

Re: late roman hat, Pileus - Robert Vermaat - 09-08-2007

Quote: thought the one picture maks me look like a russian hit man Wink
Well.. both do, actually.

It's a bit too high for my liking, but that's just a fashion statement. :wink: It looks good.

Re: late roman hat, Pileus - Chuck Russell - 09-08-2007

would you believe me if i said my head almost touches the top of it?

Re: late roman hat, Pileus - Robert Vermaat - 09-08-2007

Quote:would you believe me if i said my head almost touches the top of it?
Not for a moment. Big Grin

Hat - jc02005 - 09-09-2007

close-fitting, brimless hat worn by the ancient Romans and copied from the Greek sailor's hat called the pilos. In Roman times the head was generally left uncovered, but commoners and freed slaves sometimes wore the felt pileus.

The hat was again popular during the Renaissance, especially in Italy, when it was square or rounded and made of black or red velvet or felt.

Re: Hat - Chuck Russell - 09-09-2007

Quote:The hat was again popular during the Renaissance, especially in Italy, when it was square or rounded and made of black or red velvet or felt.

???????????????? ummm like the hat i am wearing here? its wool. and can be found in a lot of paintings throughout the continent during the 15th century.
[Image: IMG_0261.jpg]
www.replications.com/greys/Image%20Gallery/2007/MTA/Full/IMG_0261.jpg

Re: Hat - Robert Vermaat - 09-09-2007

Quote:???????????????? ummm like the hat i am wearing here? its wool. and can be found in a lot of paintings throughout the continent during the 15th century.

Ignore him, he's fond of using Wikipedia instead of books. Cry

Re: Hat - Robert Vermaat - 09-09-2007

Quote:???????????????? ummm like the hat i am wearing here? its wool. and can be found in a lot of paintings throughout the continent during the 15th century.

Ignore him Chuck, he's fond of using Wikipedia instead of books. Cry

Re: late roman hat, Pileus - Mark Headlee - 09-09-2007

Robert or Chuck,

In your research have you been able to determine what type of lining these hats had, if any? And are there any known surviving examples anywhere, such like the felt hats shown in Graham Sumners (sp) book on Roman clothing?

Thanks in advance!

Re: late roman hat, Pileus - Robert Vermaat - 09-09-2007

Quote:Robert or Chuck,
In your research have you been able to determine what type of lining these hats had, if any? And are there any known surviving examples anywhere, such like the felt hats shown in Graham Summers (sp) book on Roman clothing?

Sumner. :wink:
And from recollection I'd say there were no surviving examples, no. Cry

Re: late roman hat, Pileus - Mark Headlee - 09-09-2007

Just wondering. Smile

Thanks reguardless! (sorry Mr. Sumner...)

Re: late roman hat, Pileus - Chuck Russell - 09-09-2007

ya i dont have any liner in mine. its just a width of material that is folded on iteself and the both the sides are attached to the circle top

Re: late roman hat, Pileus - FAVENTIANVS - 09-10-2007

Looks good to me, a bit high for my taste, but good.

HAT - Graham Sumner - 09-10-2007

Robert wrote:

Quote:Sumner.
And from recollection I'd say there were no surviving examples, no.

Thanks Robert, for a surviving example see 'Arms and Armour of the Imperial Roman Soldier', by D'Amato and Sumner, forthcoming.
Graham.