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Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS - 01-03-2007 Hiya all i am looking for any info on finds that have been done during the excavations of the Roman legionary camps around Masada... F1-F7 i think... not sure....... unfortunately i do not have access to JSTOR, and am having difficulty to find any good and thorough online info... anyone on this? AVE ATQvE VALE M.VIB.M. Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - Peroni - 01-12-2007 I too would be interested in the finds from Masada. According to the Carol van Driel-Murray article "A rectangular shield cover of the Coh. XV Voluntariorum cR - JRMES 10 1999" there was a fragment of rectangular shield board discovered which has leather on front and back faces. Apparently under investigation at the Hebrew Museum Jerusalem. I still haven't seen any publication of the item. Anyone else seen it? Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - Tib. Gabinius - 01-12-2007 About the side itself and the exvaction of Massada theres "Masada, der letzte Kampf um die Festung des Herodes" of Yigeal Yadin. Some quite nice informations about the campside of the romans, but the focus is in the fort itself. Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - D B Campbell - 01-12-2007 The militaria from Masada has never been published. Guy Stiebel has announced that the military equipment will appear in Masada Report VII (although the Israel Exploration Society claims that volume 7 is the pottery, so maybe the military equipment will be Vol. 8 ). Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - Peroni - 01-12-2007 Excellent! Thank you Duncan Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - D B Campbell - 01-12-2007 You're welcome! By the way, I like the new avatar, Adrian. Very imposing. (The Lunt, I think, with atmospheric skyscape.) Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - Andrew Brozyna - 01-12-2007 This is what the Israel Exploration Scoiety told me in May, 2006: "Masada VIII is scheduled for publication in 2007." This is volume will be the military finds. Of course, in 2005 they said it would be published in 2006. So, who knows? Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS - 01-12-2007 lets hope so!! M.VIB.M. Masada publication - Guy Stiebel - 01-22-2007 Just to set the records straight. The publication of the militaria from the excavations of Yadin at Masada will take place this year 2007, under the title Masada VIII. It was indeed part of volume VII, but at the last minute it was omitted from the pottery volume due to varied editorial considerations (believe me, I want it out too...). All the material was uncovered on top of Masada. As for MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS question regarding the equipment from the siege camps. First, there are 8 camps ( indeed known as F1-F8 ) as well as a "bauplatz". Very few items were found there during the 1960's excavations and some more artefacts were uncovered in the 1995 expedition. I have recently concluded this study. It will be part of the publication of that season, presumably in JRA (Journal of Roman Archaeology) monographs. It is scheduled to be submitted to the editor by the end of 2007. Data from our excavations between 1995-2001, is available in... Hebrew (though seemingly less approachable to most members here). Some more references maybe found in the Akten der 14. Internationalen Roman Military Equipment Conference (ROMEC), Wien 2003: Carnuntum ahrbuch 2005. Guy Stiebel Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - Dan Diffendale - 01-22-2007 Thanks for the clarification, Dr. Stiebel, and welcome to RAT. Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - Guy Stiebel - 01-22-2007 Thanks for the kind welcome. (...and simply Guy will do). Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - mcbishop - 01-22-2007 Quote:Thanks for the kind welcome. Simply Guy... sounds like an Israeli archaeological fragrance ;-) For those who need to see it, attached is Masada on Google Earth (although tilting it makes me think there's something awry with Google's terrain data here as it looks decidedly flat). You can clearly see the circumvallation, siege ramp, and the Roman camps. Mike Bishop Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS - 01-23-2007 Thank you very much for the info, I have always been very interested in Masada and its history, and will be looking forward to any new information which comes up! M.VIB.M. Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - Guy Stiebel - 01-23-2007 mcbishop\\n[quote] like an Israeli archaeological fragrance Mike, I would not dare to smell myself during the excavations at Masada, particularly in the heat of the summer... Re: Masada Roman legionary camp site finds... where?? - Martin Moser - 01-23-2007 Guy, do you perhaps happen to know whether there were finds of textiles, leather and other organic materials (I would presume so) and where those were published? I'm always on the lookout for information on shoes and bags/pouches/purses especially. |