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Old Helmet - please help! - Vladimir B - 03-30-2007
Regards to all,i am new here.Please can someone provide me some informations about this old helmet? I've found it in northern Serbia(East europe) but on a place that's very close to Romania.I appreciate any help and looking for every information.
Re: Old Helmet - please help! - Robert Vermaat - 03-30-2007
Move to OT?
Re: Old Helmet - please help! - L C Cinna - 03-30-2007
looks like another fake :roll:
Re: Old Helmet - please help! - stevesarak - 03-30-2007
Looks like some of the WW1 officers helmets.
Re: Old Helmet - please help! - aitor iriarte - 03-30-2007
I agree with Steve, it could be a bit older, though that is not my field of expertise :oops:
In any case, neither a fake but nor Roman too! :wink:
Aitor
Re: Old Helmet - please help! - L C Cinna - 03-30-2007
you mean some kind of 19th century cavalry or something like that? I thought about something like that as well but I don't know much about such things. Just thought that IF it was presented as Roman or Hellenistic it's a fake. :?
HELMET - Graham Sumner - 03-30-2007
Hi
Looks like a pre WWI imperial Austro-Hungarian cavalry helmet with echoes of a classical design. The helmet bowl looks like it is leather as well. Napoleonic Austrian cuirassiers, dragoons and hussars all apparently wore leather helmets with metal fittings (I have even seen one decorated with an oak leaf sprig like the one illustrated above but do not know if that has any significance). Helmets based on classical designs remained popular until just after the outbreak of WW1
Graham.
Re: Old Helmet - please help! - FAVENTIANVS - 03-30-2007
Nap's Dragoons?
DRAGOONS - Graham Sumner - 03-30-2007
Hi Ivan
Dragoons rode into battle but generally fought on foot.
(Looking forward to seeing you soon at Tarragona!)
Graham.
Re: Old Helmet - please help! - Arahne - 03-31-2007
Consider that there are a dozens of antiquity dealers that are doing fakes, just in that part of Serbia- northern Serbia close to romania. So....
Re: Old Helmet - please help! - Comerus Gallus - 03-31-2007
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Re: HELMET - drsrob - 03-31-2007
Quote:HiThe Oak branch suggests an Austrian hemet, but the rest of the helmet does not conform to any Austrian pattern that I know of. However, it certainly dates from around 1900 AD.
Looks like a pre WWI imperial Austro-Hungarian cavalry helmet with echoes of a classical design. The helmet bowl looks like it is leather as well. Napoleonic Austrian cuirassiers, dragoons and hussars all apparently wore leather helmets with metal fittings (I have even seen one decorated with an oak leaf sprig like the one illustrated above but do not know if that has any significance). Helmets based on classical designs remained popular until just after the outbreak of WW1
Graham.
Re: DRAGOONS - FAVENTIANVS - 03-31-2007
Quote:Hi IvanCounting the days left!
Dragoons rode into battle but generally fought on foot.
(Looking forward to seeing you soon at Tarragona!)
Graham.
Re: Old Helmet - please help! - hoplite14gr - 03-31-2007
Considering the place of the origin and the olive leaves
I think it is a British officers helmet of the Eptanesian regiments raised in the Napoleonic Wars. A similar helmet is depicted on a painting at Kensington palace showing an officer of this regiment.
Though some source mention Tarleton helmets for the officers.
Plus Theodoros Kolokotronis one of the 1821 revolutionary leaders was an major in the British Army and depicted with a similar helmet.
The oak leaves are a later addition in my opinion.
Kind regards
Re: Old Helmet - please help! - Vladimir B - 03-31-2007
No it's not a fake,I've found this web site by desperately searching for any information that could help.I've found helmet about 3km far away from serbian arheological place,close to romanian border,i can post a picture.I would not ask you for origin if it's fake,right?.I don't know anything about helmets..anyway thanks a lot all of you for help.I just needed info..