05-20-2014, 01:34 AM
Well Alexander, now you know why I said we do not have a complete squamata.
Evan, from the 1st C AD......which it appears the armor in question is going to be used for, there are only fragments. I personally do not know of any complete shirt.
There are two complete scale shirts or nearly complete but those are the famous hybrid scale/mail.
With respect to that rounded collar, AFAIK, I do not think you can conclusively state that it belonged to a squamata in the manner in which the typical reconstruction shows. Everyone has gone overboard with this piece and from dozens of pictures that I have seen of re-enactors.....EVERYONE has the same scale shirt with that collar. It could have been a bishop type mantle and not integral. It just makes no sense to me that the scales would run vertical and all of a sudden stop and this circular thing just attached. I think that circular collar was a separate piece that went over the shoulders like your typical doubler.
Besides, there are many depictions showing scale armor and although care must be taken when looking at sculpture, the same is true with actual pieces.
Evan, from the 1st C AD......which it appears the armor in question is going to be used for, there are only fragments. I personally do not know of any complete shirt.
There are two complete scale shirts or nearly complete but those are the famous hybrid scale/mail.
With respect to that rounded collar, AFAIK, I do not think you can conclusively state that it belonged to a squamata in the manner in which the typical reconstruction shows. Everyone has gone overboard with this piece and from dozens of pictures that I have seen of re-enactors.....EVERYONE has the same scale shirt with that collar. It could have been a bishop type mantle and not integral. It just makes no sense to me that the scales would run vertical and all of a sudden stop and this circular thing just attached. I think that circular collar was a separate piece that went over the shoulders like your typical doubler.
Besides, there are many depictions showing scale armor and although care must be taken when looking at sculpture, the same is true with actual pieces.
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