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Who really \"won\" the Battle of Chalons?
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Quote:Tournai, Cologne and Trier

It should be noted that all three of these towns were under Roman control in 451. Aetius re-took them in the Frankish war of 444/445.

Quote:Attila probably achieved his objective, although at great cost to both sides in that the western Roman field army which probably wasn't that strong before Chalons, took heavy casualties and never seemed to recover after the battle.

Agreed, Aetius was unable to stop the Visigothic Siege of Arelate in 453, but luckily enough Theodoric II who was friendly to Aetius and Avitus came to the throne after Thorismund was assassinated. Aetius gave Frederic the title of Magister Militum upon restoration of the treaty.

Presumably it was an honorary title, but we hear no more of the Gothic general Sigisvult who had been recruited by treaty in 426 after 448 AD, so it's possible Frederic was a replacement for Sigisvultus.

Anyways, it took a joint coalition of Aetius and the Romans, and the Visigoths, to restore Spain to the Roman Empire.

Quote:Possibly their leader was Goar/Echocar/Eothar, three names yet all the same king. We know that Bishop Germanus halted him when his Alans were ordered to crush a minor rebellion in Armorica. Since Germanus died at Rome in 448, this Goar was still living just prior to that time. His replacement was Sangiban, perhaps from the same family/ruling-class.

This can probably be solved in the same manner as the Hunnic name ending -cur. As he advanced in Rank while serving with Aetius, his name changed from Goar to Eochar when Aetius settled him in the Orleans through Tours area in 442.

Quote:angiban was Sangiban, and Sambida was the other guy.

Explained the same way as Goar - Sambida's name changed to Sangiban upon his settlement in 440 in the area of Augustonemetum, because his rank advanced.

I should probably change the name from Sambida to Sangiban.
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Who really \"won\" the Battle of Chalons? - by Flavivs Aetivs - 05-16-2014, 05:50 PM

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