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#31
Yes it looks like it was made in sections and most of it was hammered. But also some parts were cast.

Here are some examples...

The Riace Warriors
hollow cast bronze
ca. 460-450 B.C.E.
http://www.tronchin.com/Art1A/lecture8.htm

Hammered
http://www.khm.at/system2E.html?/staticE/page948.html

Hammered
http://www.thewalters.org/works_of_art/itemdetails.aspx?aid=128
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#32
Well I found the museum where the statue is at [url:6g63nrma]http://www.archeopg.arti.beniculturali.it/[/url]. But since I do not understand italian it does not do me much good.
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#33
HAHA I was hoping there was an English version... [url:298m3ico]http://www.eng.archeopg.arti.beniculturali.it/[/url]
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#34
Well it seems a lot of the statue was done by casting or thats the best I can make out with babelfish and the part of the site thats not in english.

Oh by the way I emailed them to check on getting pictures...

Here is what it said --- babelfish...

Quote:The statue of German has been realized by means of fusion of the type "to wax lost" with indirect procedure. Such procedure came preferred, as they attest the ancient sources, for the realization of statues of great dimensions. The advantages were multiple: the several parts of one could be fused separately statue, employing smaller amounts of metal; a small jet involved little risks; but above all the model did not get lost originates them and therefore the various anatomical members could be red-use. Leaving from a rifinito model, probably in clay, the figure in various sections was divided, of which it was made I tread. To the inside of it treads, constituted from more dowels for requirements than sottosquadro, it was made to join the wax, or used to slabs softened, or fused and spread to paint-brush, or strained perfectly to the inside of the matrices approached, with the method of application "to I rinse". The wax layer had to turn out uniform, since to its thickness then that one of the metal would be corresponded. The dowels of ciascuna shape came near and the wax layer knit. To the inside it came strained a rather fluid earth, said "earth of fusion", termoresistente yield from the added one of organic substances apt sopportare the temperature of the fused metal. In the limbs bars of support in iron, that they came then removed, with to the fusion earth became part, after the jet. After the drying of this "anima", and freed the wax layer from the dowels, rifiniva modeled with sticks of wood and the metallic tools it is heated to you. Many you leave came completed with added in wax or with the application of elements it realizes to you to stamp. To times, to this point, they came practices on the wax signs to you of reference for the assemblage. The batons in wax were applied that constituted the tubes of vent during the tap, and the nail became part spacers, that they crossed the wax in order to fix to the inner nucleus the external cape, than constructed with one clay layer much depurata in the first layers, and gradually rougher. To drying happened scaldava all to strong temperatures: the wax came eliminated through the vent channels and left the space the metal jet.

After the cooling the external cape was cracked and the bronze was emptied, freeing it from the fusion earth. To this point it began along rifinitura job: the bronze from the fusion crests was cleaned up; risarcivano the defects with small rectangular dowels are applied to you for beating, after to have some prepared the lodging: nettava and levigava all the surface with suitable tools; finally it came carried out the politura with pomice stone. To the end some details were defined using, to cold, a profilatoio; and they joined, also, decorations to damask steel: one became part that is, by means of beating, ritagliata different sheet metal in a predisposed lodging of corresponding shape.
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#35
Sorry to keep posting things but I keep finding new bits. They have video to download of closeup of the pieces of the statu. They are on this page...[url:1f0otnrd]http://www.eng.archeopg.arti.beniculturali.it/canale.asp?id=507[/url]
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#36
It was cast in multiple sections using the lost-wax method, and afterwards details were worked cold.
Dan Diffendale
Ph.D. candidate, University of Michigan
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#37
Yeah, I figured they would use the lost wax technique! I reckon any hammered parts were not of grerat size! Could be wrong though!

Nice video link Sulla. Will have a better look when I upgrade realplayer.
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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#38
The day the statue was found, always an emotion...

http://www.provincia.terni.it/Cultura/b ... u_foto.htm

more pics:



[Image: germanico.jpg]

[Image: parq_amelia.jpg]

[Image: fusione.jpg]

[url:g2m39toa]http://www.argoweb.it/amelia/amelia3.gif[/url]

[url:g2m39toa]http://www.amelia.it/monumenti/sala.jpg[/url]

[url:g2m39toa]http://www.amelia.it/monumenti/rinvenimento.jpg[/url]

[url:g2m39toa]http://www.amelia.it/monumenti/animgerm.gif[/url]

Valete,
TITVS/Daniele Sabatini

... Tu modo nascenti puero, quo ferrea primum
desinet ac toto surget Gens Aurea mundo,
casta faue Lucina; tuus iam regnat Apollo ...


Vergilius, Bucolicae, ecloga IV, 4-10
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#39
Good Pics Daniele! What a mess it was in!! Confusedhock: Was it found in an archaological site ie a villa or something?
Or was it Gothic plunder dumped?

Lots missing too! :roll: :?

And what is the third pic of, with the white circle?
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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#40
Some one I contacted on one of the sites sent me some larger images. I will post them when I get a chance.
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#41
Ok here are some larger images. Still not to large but a good size for the web.

[url:2oc7i4hr]http://www.pwlawrence.com/temp_art/germanicus01.jpg[/url]

[url:2oc7i4hr]http://www.pwlawrence.com/temp_art/germanicus02.jpg[/url]

[url:2oc7i4hr]http://www.pwlawrence.com/temp_art/germanicus03.jpg[/url]
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#42
I see he has a Greek style sword!
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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#43
Looks like a typical parazonium.
TARBICvS/Jim Bowers
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#44
The parazonium is the one that seems to indicate rank and you see cradled in the arms on statues all the time correct? Oh and on this page is shows the other end [url:2uv3pqk7]http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9854/PageEmp.html[/url].
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#45
Here's an original from Travis Clark's website

http://astro.temple.edu/~tlclark/lorica ... parazonium
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