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specifics in Spear fighting combat
Actually thigh woond are one of the most frequently shown in vases,often with blood coming out. This is logical as the thighs may had been some of the most popular targets,given the nature of hoplite armour and weapons. A thigh woond has the tendency to open in itself rather than close with every single movement,and thus makes the woonded uncapable. This is not the real point of the discussion,I think. The point is,what was the nature of "hoplomachia" and could it be depicted in vases refering to those techniques the hoplites supposedly were tought? I think it's too exagerated to interpret a vase painting as reference to what a hoplite could do,and more so when the scene is most likely to depict something else.
I also wonder,what was the view of the ancients about what is a "good fighting". Nowadays we're influenced from Hollywood,which is full of different eastern martial arts combined with anything that looks fancy and clever. i.e. how much time does a soldier usually need to kill another one in a real fight,and how complicated movement does he need to employ? My point is that an ancient Greek would have a very different view of what an "educated" hoplomachos could do that we may imagine today,in a time that not even gladiatorial shows had been invented.
For one,the movements of pankration,ancient boxing and wrestling are far less fancy than the chinese and japanese martial art,but just as lethal.
Khaire
Giannis
Giannis K. Hoplite
a.k.a.:Giannis Kadoglou
a.k.a.:Thorax
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Spear fighting technique - by Paullus Scipio - 02-26-2008, 10:25 PM
Re: Spear fighting technique - by Robert Vermaat - 02-27-2008, 12:52 PM
Spear Fighting - by Paullus Scipio - 02-28-2008, 01:17 AM
Spear fighting - by Paullus Scipio - 03-03-2008, 10:22 PM
Re: Spear Fighting - by Robert Vermaat - 03-04-2008, 09:09 AM
Spear fighting by Hoplites - by Paullus Scipio - 03-04-2008, 10:57 PM
Specifics of Spear Fighting - by Paullus Scipio - 05-19-2008, 09:27 PM
Spear Fighting/ Drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-21-2008, 09:05 PM
Spear-fighting/Hoplite Drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-21-2008, 10:08 PM
Spear fighting/Hoplite drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-22-2008, 07:42 AM
Spear-fighting/Hoplite Drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-22-2008, 02:35 PM
Spear-fighting/Hoplite drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-23-2008, 01:31 AM
Spear Fighting/Hoplite Drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-23-2008, 09:08 PM
Sper Fighting/Hoplite drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-23-2008, 10:56 PM
Spear Fighting/Hoplite drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-24-2008, 12:29 AM
Spearfighting/ Hoplite Drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-24-2008, 01:32 AM
Spear Fighting/Hoplite Drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-24-2008, 03:45 AM
Spear Fighting/Hoplite Drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-24-2008, 08:59 PM
Re: specifics in Spear fighting combat - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 05-26-2008, 01:17 AM
Spear-fighting/Hoplite Drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-26-2008, 11:45 PM
Spear Fighting/Hoplite drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-27-2008, 01:55 AM
Spear Fighting/Hoplite drill - by Paullus Scipio - 05-27-2008, 03:54 AM
Spear-fighting - by Paullus Scipio - 06-05-2008, 01:37 AM

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