Posts: 2,540
Threads: 43
Joined: Feb 2003
Reputation:
0
Hello,
We are enhancing our civilian side for our Tarraco Viva display. This year we'll have the lady of the villa and one of her female servants.
I am looking for good pics of a few bronze and marble heads of Late Roman Empresses wearing this complicated headdress composed of several tresses.
Many thanks in advance! 
Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.
Rolf Steiner
Posts: 1,962
Threads: 106
Joined: Apr 2003
Reputation:
7
Dear Aitor:
That's not a complicated headdress: that's a crown. Are you making an empress?
It's made of a band (leather?) with some balls (jewelss, pearls) atached.
In fact is identicall to the late roman emperor's crowns.
![[Image: c-2005%20(53).JPG]](http://www.romancoins.info/c-2005%20(53).JPG)
![[Image: 8.jpg]](http://www.unipa.it/dipstdir/pub/purpura/barletta/img/8.jpg)
Posts: 2,540
Threads: 43
Joined: Feb 2003
Reputation:
0
No Cesar,
It is not a crown, even if it can resemble that, it's a complicated double system of tresses. 8)
No we're not trying to make an empress, but rich women always aped their empress' headdress :roll:
Have you already chosen place for our annual dinner or are you too too busy with the Imperial Postal Service? :wink:
Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.
Rolf Steiner
Posts: 1,962
Threads: 106
Joined: Apr 2003
Reputation:
7
Not a crown in a sense of the medieval crowns made of sections of metal.
It's, as you says, a comlicated sistem of pearled tresses, but forming a crown. I mean, that kind of crown/headdress is associated with the emperor/ empress.
And, yes we are extremly busy with the IPS... Probably we made not a dinner, but a lunch (a mediodia). But that kind of themes are managed by Carme, as you knows.
Best regards.
Posts: 2,540
Threads: 43
Joined: Feb 2003
Reputation:
0
A lunch!  hock: You'll never cease to surprise us
Please keep us informed!
About the headdress, I don't understand it the way you do (maybe it is because I cannot find a back view of it :? ) but I'd wish to find pics, anyway.
Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.
Rolf Steiner
Posts: 1,962
Threads: 106
Joined: Apr 2003
Reputation:
7
Look at that:
![[Image: mcr2536_1.jpg]](http://www.archart.it/archart/italia/lazio/Roma/Roma%20-%20museo%20Civilta%20Romana%20reperti/mcr2536_1.jpg)
It's clear it's a kind of not rigid crown.
Now, i have made a comparison between a late roman emperor head:
![[Image: 8.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/avitianus/8.jpg)
and the image you posted, using the same color esqueme:
![[Image: 573a_11.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/avitianus/573a_11.jpg)
The top part of the head is a tress of hair that beginns at the neck, goes at the center top part of the head and are tied in the front.
Posts: 1,962
Threads: 106
Joined: Apr 2003
Reputation:
7
The blackened "balls" are bunchs of hair, probably going to the top and tied to the central tress.
Posts: 2,540
Threads: 43
Joined: Feb 2003
Reputation:
0
OK Cesar, many thanks! 8)
I had seen the blue diadem. I wonder whether the red dots are the heads of big aci crinales. Interesting your interpretation of the black dots. Notwithstanding, if I remember well, it was the matter of more than one tress... :?
Does anybody have a back view?
Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.
Rolf Steiner
Posts: 1,962
Threads: 106
Joined: Apr 2003
Reputation:
7
See that kind of hair bunches going to the top in that statue of Theodora.
![[Image: bust04.jpg]](http://www.hp.uab.edu/image_archive/ulh/bust04.jpg)
Another time, the pearled crown.
Posts: 1,962
Threads: 106
Joined: Apr 2003
Reputation:
7
And the neck tress turned over the head in that one:
![[Image: p-octacilia-severa.JPG]](http://www.romancoins.info/p-octacilia-severa.JPG)
Posts: 1,962
Threads: 106
Joined: Apr 2003
Reputation:
7
Posts: 2,540
Threads: 43
Joined: Feb 2003
Reputation:
0
Many thanks for your help, Cesar!
The last one is the most approximate to what I had in mind 8)
Theodora is probably wearing the same headdress but either the sculptor was lazy or, more probably, the tresses are hidden under a veil
I still hope that somebody will be able to produce a rear view from her/his archive! 
Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.
Rolf Steiner
Posts: 85
Threads: 3
Joined: Apr 2005
Reputation:
0
Aitor,
Here's a bit of info from Sally Pointer...
http://www.sallypointer.com/makeover.htm
Valete,
Owain/Cicero
a.k.a. Dave Kufner
QUI DESIDERAT PACEM PRAEPARAT BELLUM
<a class="postlink" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Segontium/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Segontium/
Posts: 2,540
Threads: 43
Joined: Feb 2003
Reputation:
0
Many thanks, Owain
Unfortunately, it is a little bit too early for what I need 
Aitor
It\'s all an accident, an accident of hands. Mine, others, all without mind, from one extreme to another, but neither works nor will ever.
Rolf Steiner
Posts: 85
Threads: 3
Joined: Apr 2005
Reputation:
0
No problem Aitor.
I too am interested in the late roman hairstyles and how to do them. I want to bring my wife along to a uk event in 2010 all dressed up as a late roman lady.
Valete,
Owain/Cicero
a.k.a. Dave Kufner
QUI DESIDERAT PACEM PRAEPARAT BELLUM
<a class="postlink" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Segontium/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Segontium/
|
