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Famous Vergina "Sarissa Head" Metal Composition
#1
I am reading over a few articles on the sarissa at the moment (mostly those by Markle, Connolly, and Sekunda), and much of the discussion centres around the now-famous "Andronikos" "sarissa" components and whether they did indeed belong to a sarissa or not. These were the fittings found outside a tomb in the necropolis at Vergina that included a half-a-metre-long leaf-shaped head, a coupling sleeve, and a huge four-flanged spiked butt.

Now, I've run into some confusion on one matter in particular. Both Markle and Connolly mention that all the fittings, including the head, are made of iron, but Sekunda states that it was bronze, and uses this as one point to support his argument that this spear was actually a ceremonial weapon. A few different spearheads have been found at Vergina, but all three authors attest to this particular head weighing 1.235 kg, far too exact a number to be a coincidence. The problem is that every image I've seen of the fittings has been a line drawing, so I can't deduce myself what material it is composed of. Does anyone have photographs of this "sarissa head," or can they attest to the metal it is made out of?
Ruben

He had with him the selfsame rifle you see with him now, all mounted in german silver and the name that he\'d give it set with silver wire under the checkpiece in latin: Et In Arcadia Ego. Common enough for a man to name his gun. His is the first and only ever I seen with an inscription from the classics. - Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian
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#2
Whilst I am currently away from home and so can't shed any light on this, one might expect that the Head would be iron and the butt bronze, whilst the sleeve could be either......could it be that both are partially correct?
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#3
Hi Ruben,

I have the excellent “coffee table” book of the “Alexander The Great: Treasures from an Epic Era of Hellenism” exhibition at the Onassis Centre (NYC) some five years back. It is replete with colour photographs of all the items that toured in that exhibition. Amongst those items are the “sarissa” head, sauroter and sleeve – as well as seven other points from the Royal tombs.

Unfortunately my scanner is kaput so you’ll have to make do with my photo of a photo (on your email).

Briefly, there is a photo of the three items which is clearly labeled “point, sauroter and connecting socket of a sarissa”. It then states that they are all iron. To the eye they definitely look iron and they look no different to the other seven iron points.

Thanks for the article. I did question the bronze description when reading it. I do not disagree with claim that ash was likely the wood for the shaft or much of the rest of his argument.
Paralus|Michael Park

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#4
Thanks very much for the photograph, Michael. As I suspected, Sekunda was mistaken and the head, as with the other components, is iron. That's unusual for Sekunda, who is usually pretty meticulous with his scholarship. Nonetheless, it doesn't really impact his argument much, so no harm done!
Ruben

He had with him the selfsame rifle you see with him now, all mounted in german silver and the name that he\'d give it set with silver wire under the checkpiece in latin: Et In Arcadia Ego. Common enough for a man to name his gun. His is the first and only ever I seen with an inscription from the classics. - Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian
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#5
Does make you wonder though....
Paralus|Michael Park

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#6
Ruben and Michael,

If either of you want Andronikos's BCH paper (its in French), just drop me an email. He labels all four-2 points, 1 sauroter, and 1 sleeve- as "fer" or iron.
Paul M. Bardunias
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#7
Why's it in French then?

Mind your own business silly English history types! Now, go away before I publish in another language!
Paralus|Michael Park

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#8
Quote:Why's it in French then?

It reeks of elderberries too!
Paul M. Bardunias
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#9
And its author was a hampster!
Paralus|Michael Park

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#10
It has a detailed description of the Macedonian Boeoboloi though.
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