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More glue - bah
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Quote:Scott wrote:
Quote:You missed the point again. Both passages speak of lamination techniques.
...I, and doubtless everyone else, didn't miss the point at all.....you are trying to say that because 'lamination' was known ( from mummies! ), it could have been used in ancient Classical Greece....that is about as far removed from actual evidence as it is possible to get ! :roll:
I was not saying lamination was known from mummies, I was just pointing out that the technique the Egyptians were using to wrap the body was a form of lamination.

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Quote:Nowhere did I mention body armor.
...so no connection then? I'd agree with that! Egyptian mummy practices are no evidence of laminated glued body armour in Classical Greece! So what was the point of referring to it?
See above explanation.


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Quote:Likewise, giving a poet armor to keep him warm would seem odd to the audience I would think (it at least sounds highly peculiar to myself). I could be wrong, maybe priest's "slaves" walk around in leather armor???
...is there a point to this? It seems we are agreed now that priests are nothing to do with anything, and that the reference in the play is more likely to be to the older meaning of animal skin ( see my earlier post).
BTW, you've still got it wrong - Pistheitaros is not a priest!.....as you said...

I never said Pisthetaerus was a priest. I don't have it wrong. Read it again. Pisthetaerus orders a priest's slave (the priest is no longer around) to give the poet his (i.e. the slave's) spolas. Where is this wrong? The slave has a spolas and a tunic. My was point was that a priest's slave wearing armor (the spolas) is quite strange. What would a slave be doing wearing armor? How would this armor help to make the poet warm? This is better understood if the spolas were a crude animal hide slung from the shoulders. Then, a slave wearing an animal hide shawl around his neck and hanging from his shoulders, along with a tunic underneath, makes complete sense. Reading it this way, it also makes sense that the poet would complain after receiving only the spolas: an animal hide hanging from the shoulders would be mostly inadequate at covering the body and protecting against the cold. Therefore the poet hints at wanting the tunic as well. Pisthetaerus gives in and orders the slave to give the poet his tunic. So now the poet, who has a spolas and tunic taken from the slave, leaves. The sacrifice then commences.
Scott B.
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More glue - bah - by Dan Howard - 01-11-2010, 09:02 PM
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