Deurne helmet exhibition

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Tim

The ring was, in this find complex, part of the helmet bag.
Brass and, or metal rings were and are used for re-enforcing the holes/eyelets for tent poles or ropes.
Ask a tent or sail maker how they do this.

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Thanks for that bit of info, I wasn't sure if they used them or not back then..

[garrelt]

Byron

I have not found any Roman era archaeological evidence for re-enforcing rings for tents or sails.
Here I mean a piece of fabric which has a ring and all the stitching in place.
You don't really need these rings with leather tens/shelters but you sure need them for a tent/shelter made from fabric.
But with the present knowledge of Roman era technology that we have now, it would not surprise me that this method was used.

A reconstruction of the helmet bag made by Aitor Iriarte is shown on page 35 and 90 of the book "De Gouden helm uit de Peel".
The shelter half is described and drawn on page 46 to 49 of the same book.
The size is now 208cm by 216 cm original size estimated at 230 cm by 240 cm.
Big enough for one person.

Below a description by Carol van Driel-Murray as found about corner pieces on page 49.
I translated this as accurate as possible from the original Dutch text into English .
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Group III lined corner fragments.

Corner fragment between two ligated seems, with a triangular re-enforcing piece still present at the grain side.
In this re-enforcing piece a slit has been intentionally made, which clearly shows the imprint of a round, lost (metal or bone) object.
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Looks like the passage from the book answered my theory. :oops:

[garrelt]

The attached picture is a shelter half as suggested by Alban Depper , well known in the viking scene, as proposed to be used for Widfara.
Going into the wilderness with a minimum amount of gear.

[John Conyard]

I have much experience of such tents. One tent can shelter three men, two in the tent one man taking care of the fire. Shields as doors, vertuta as uprights and a spear as a cross piece.

[garrelt]

Subject: Deurne helmet exhibition

I have much experience of such tents. One tent can shelter three men, two in the tent one man taking care of the fire. Shields as doors, vertuta as uprights and a spear as a cross piece.

John
I know and have looked at your groups site several times.
A good authentic camp reconstruction is something I really like.
But you have to hide, camouflage your modern stuff somewhere, especially when you travel alone.
Don't forget where to put the rest of your gear, armor, shield etc.
But traveling light than a shelter is the prefered option.

[jvrjenivs]

Will they be showing the other bits and pieces?

I am sure some of the Deurne leather sheeting was once shown in the RMO.

When I saw it, one fragment had a very obvious brass ring stitched on to it. I'd love to know whether this fragment was part of the bag or the tent.

I'll go there this sunday, so after that I can tell more, and if allowed, post pictures
Anyway, the website tells the exhibition will host a copy of the helmet along with other finds from the same area, such as leathers.

[John Conyard]

The copy will be excellent.

[jvrjenivs]

Just back from the exhibition. Not that impressed. They host 2 replica's of the Deurne helmet. Both by straight out of the box from Deepeeka exports. Several photographs of other local finds and some books about the helmet. Most interesting were a couple of leather pieces, but I wouldn't suggest a visit, the exhibition is only 2 small rooms with under 10 items (of which 2 deepeeka helmets as stated above). Disappointed.

[John Conyard]

Hmmmmm, our Polish helmet maker is doing a splendid reproduction which I assumed was for this exhibition.....

But what do I know

[garrelt]

Jurjen

Thanks for your remarks.
So no need to go there then.

[markusaurelius]

Does anyone have any pictures of the helmet bag and the brass ring? I'd like to make one, and wouldn't mind some good photos of what is left of the original to help....