10-24-2021, 06:32 PM
Nathan wrote:
A. The revolt began in late August. The fall of Colchester, defeat of Cerialis and Paulinus's march to London happened in September, and the final battle in early October. Reinforcements arrived at the very end of the sailing season in late October. The saga of Classicianus, Polyclitus and the arrival of Turpilianus happened over the spring and summer of the following year.
B. The revolt began in late September. Colchester fell in October and London in November. There was then a winter lull before the final battle the following March and a punitive campaign over the summer. Classicianus, Polyclitus and the reinforcements all turned up before the end of summer. Turpilianus took over in September or so.
I still think that scenario A is most likely with the revolt lasting August to June but with the famine extending as late as the following year, probably causing more deaths and possibly the final straw for the Iceni as an independent entity.
Tacitus sets the scene for the battle with Boudica as the turning point of what actually was a prolonged war as he says but concentrates on the earlier exciting events and hardly touches on the boring part of the ongoing small daily engagements, apart from noting that Classicianus realises that continually destroying the local population was wasteful and sends to Nero to have Seutonius Paulinus removed.
The Trinovantes and others were possibly subjugated October to December but those who refused to submit (even if they had the chance) like the Iceni were mercilessly chased into the Fens as they refused to submit where they possibly spent the winter.
Seutonius must have had a problem trying to beat them as he had to mount an amphibious assault which went disastrously wrong (the loss of ships) after Polyclitus had sent a “watered down report”
If this happened Classicianus must have sent a further report basically saying that Seutonius Paulinus was just out of control and determined to wipe out any rebels and wasting resources and stopping the rest of the Province from operating effectively financially as the military resources were concentrated in the East.
Tacitus states that Seutonius had to hand his army over to Turpilianus whilst the war was continuing but obviously the Imperial decree was to negotiate with the rebels rather than continue a war that was dragging on, tying down a considerable amount of troops for little reward.
Although the Brythons in the East lost their lands they caused much of the west of Britannia to be denuded of troops and control, which had to be re-occupied by Frontinus and Agricola in the 70s.
A. The revolt began in late August. The fall of Colchester, defeat of Cerialis and Paulinus's march to London happened in September, and the final battle in early October. Reinforcements arrived at the very end of the sailing season in late October. The saga of Classicianus, Polyclitus and the arrival of Turpilianus happened over the spring and summer of the following year.
B. The revolt began in late September. Colchester fell in October and London in November. There was then a winter lull before the final battle the following March and a punitive campaign over the summer. Classicianus, Polyclitus and the reinforcements all turned up before the end of summer. Turpilianus took over in September or so.
I still think that scenario A is most likely with the revolt lasting August to June but with the famine extending as late as the following year, probably causing more deaths and possibly the final straw for the Iceni as an independent entity.
Tacitus sets the scene for the battle with Boudica as the turning point of what actually was a prolonged war as he says but concentrates on the earlier exciting events and hardly touches on the boring part of the ongoing small daily engagements, apart from noting that Classicianus realises that continually destroying the local population was wasteful and sends to Nero to have Seutonius Paulinus removed.
The Trinovantes and others were possibly subjugated October to December but those who refused to submit (even if they had the chance) like the Iceni were mercilessly chased into the Fens as they refused to submit where they possibly spent the winter.
Seutonius must have had a problem trying to beat them as he had to mount an amphibious assault which went disastrously wrong (the loss of ships) after Polyclitus had sent a “watered down report”
If this happened Classicianus must have sent a further report basically saying that Seutonius Paulinus was just out of control and determined to wipe out any rebels and wasting resources and stopping the rest of the Province from operating effectively financially as the military resources were concentrated in the East.
Tacitus states that Seutonius had to hand his army over to Turpilianus whilst the war was continuing but obviously the Imperial decree was to negotiate with the rebels rather than continue a war that was dragging on, tying down a considerable amount of troops for little reward.
Although the Brythons in the East lost their lands they caused much of the west of Britannia to be denuded of troops and control, which had to be re-occupied by Frontinus and Agricola in the 70s.
Deryk
