09-29-2022, 11:42 PM
(09-29-2022, 10:20 PM)Renatus Wrote:I dont have a problem with a camp either, nor a natural defence with a rampart on top to protect the troops and civilians, this could be something quite simple and needn't be huge walls. It would actually be negligent not to build some type of defences if SP had time, and that's something he could have some control over, time.(09-29-2022, 10:00 PM)Owein Walker Wrote: You say I wouldn't get hung up on the word Rampart(while getting hung up on the word) ,then say munimentum can mean rampart.
So Rampart it is then. What is so difficult about accepting a rampart existed unless you place your army at the bottom of a slope?. If you want to learn anything,like I do, then please let dadlamassu give us a military translation, thank you.
Read my post. I said that munimentum can mean 'rampart' 'in the proper context', i.e., in relation to a fort or camp. The translators that I mentioned avoid the word: Church & Brodribb - 'a defence'; Loeb - 'a natural protection'; Michael Grant - 'a natural defence'. I myself used 'protection'. So, forget ramparts; they just mislead.
I struggle to see why SP is portrayed as in a hurry, or caught out by unforeseen changes in light of the victory he achieved (He plans in advance for changes). If he felt a defensive line would be to his benefit then I'm sure he would have built one, and if he is at the top of a slope(natural protection) then all the better.
I'm keeping defile, rampart and camp, because SP would want them, and I can't think of a better reason than that.
Ian