New discovery: loricas segmentatas Leon, Spain

[LVCIVS SERGIVS ANTONINVS]

Salvete omnes,


a photo of the place where the loricae were found:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HijTimEVCfY/T7...1600/1.jpg

by the way Leon comes from Le(gi)on(em), not Lion like in the automatic translation.

Valete

[Iagoba]

Google Maps has got a nice aerial view and the outline of the city walls can be easily discerned, too.

[Robert Vermaat]

On the other hand, if it appears that the most plausible theory is that it is indeed a warehouse, the fact of finding lots of armor in a small space has made archaeologists think of the existence of a number of units called fabricae within a much larger warehouse.

That would make the hypothesis possible that armours like the segmentata were stored and not used, instead of being produced well into the 4th century as originally proposed. They could have been there until they rusted or actually chucked away. As were the 40-odd Intercisa helmets found in Dunapentele, Hungary.

[Vincula]

My favorite blog mentioned this: http://antoninuspius.blogspot.de/

[Vindex]

My favorite blog mentioned this: http://antoninuspius.blogspot.de/

Whoever thought blue writing on a on brown background was a good idea???? hock:

[Caratacus]

From Gaius Julius Caesar: I understood there to be a find of Seg and other stuff associated with an Auxilliary. Possibly a Batavian.?

I wonder if this is the paper you may be thinking about? It's in Dutch and was published in:

"De tempel van Empel. Een Hercules-heiligdom in het woongebeid van de Batava"
The relevant section seems to be: "Wapentuig voor Hercules" by Carol van Driel-Murray.

As I understand it, the armour and horse equipment was found with a diploma, which established that the 'owner' (at least of the diploma) was an auxiliary. Whether he actually owned the armour is, of course, a moot point! :grin:

Mike Thomas
(Caratacus)

[mcbishop]

Whether he actually owned the armour is, of course, a moot point! :grin:

A little detail like that should never be allowed to get in the way of a good, baseless meme.

D'Amato also argues that cavalrymen on the Portonaccio Sarcophagus are clearly wearing leather banded armour but I guess that belongs in another thread.

A new and previously unexplored use of the word 'clearly'. And as for where it belongs... ;-)

Whoever thought blue writing on a on brown background was a good idea????

I bet this guy likes it (the only website for which I have to have a custom stylesheet in order to avoid a seizure).

Rumours are reaching me that the latest León find may be comparable to von Groller's Waffenmagazin find at Carnuntum.

Mike Bishop

[Caballo]

Does this mean that Lorica Segmentata III; The Empire strikes Back, ( and introducing Dai Caerleon and Pedro Leon) is now in Pre production?

[mcbishop]

Does this mean that Lorica Segmentata III; The Empire strikes Back, ( and introducing Dai Caerleon and Pedro Leon) is now in Pre production?

Working title Fifty Shades of Seggie ('hurt me, hurt me!' 'Okay, don't wear any padding on the shoulders...').

Mike Bishop

[Graham Sumner]

Graham Sumner wrote:
D'Amato also argues that cavalrymen on the Portonaccio Sarcophagus are clearly wearing leather banded armour but I guess that belongs in another thread.

Mike Bishop wrote:
A new and previously unexplored use of the word 'clearly'. And as for where it belongs...


As clear as mud you mean :-D !

Graham.

[Caratacus]

Whether he actually owned the armour is, of course, a moot point! :grin:

A little detail like that should never be allowed to get in the way of a good, baseless meme.

Mike Bishop

Oh, come on now - after all, as you say:
"You know my method. It is founded upon the observance of trifles" :grin: Surely, this is a 'trifle'? Or is an egg-custard?

Mike Thomas
(Caratacus)

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Whether he actually owned the armour is, of course, a moot point! :grin:

A little detail like that should never be allowed to get in the way of a good, baseless meme.


Mike Bishop

Why would it be baseless?
The evidence not agreeing with another theory?

[mcbishop]

Why would it be baseless?
The evidence not agreeing with another theory?

Because there is no 'evidence' that the lorica seg belonged to a Batavian auxiliary, just a hypothesis attempting to tie together disparate pieces of material.

Mike Bishop

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

They were found together in an auxiliary fort were they not?
Or is that BS as well?

[D B Campbell]

They were found together in an auxiliary fort were they not?

Dedications at a sanctuary, I think: http://www.livius.org/ga-gh/germania/empel.html. (I haven't seen the article.)